Iowa Union Bullies HS runner

Tell these Union bullies that collective punishment is a war crime according to the Geneva convention.

You do the crime, you do the time. Athletes need to know the rules and obey them.

Iowa2:07 wrote:

She is now being bullied and harassed by her peers and adults in the community. done so?

That's the really concerning part.

Here's a link to the story:

http://qctimes.com/sports/high-school/track-and-field/article_e97cca18-e7e5-5e05-89e5-c052f0762761.html

I can't speak to the veracity of the claims that she is being bullied (though this is surely one of the most overused terms in our culture today, that alone doesn't mean she isn't being bullied).

Insufferable Know-It-All wrote:

Iowa2:07 wrote:

She is now being bullied and harassed by her peers and adults in the community. done so?

That's the really concerning part.

Local newspaper story:

The violations occurred in December, February and April, well before the Iowa State Meet was held in May, but were only discovered afterwards.

From the story and the comments, I get the impression that the athlete and her family were informed rather specifically about the rules in advance of the violations but went ahead with their own plan.

Seems as though she has another year and can now compete in all the college and open events she wants. But not for her high school.

[quote]2:07 wrote:As 'punishment' the Iowa State Athletic Union stripped her team of their state track title. It was asked that the consequences be given to her alone, not the team but the Athletic Union refused. [/quote

According to the article, they only took away her points, but that dropped the team out of first.

Stupid rule. The girl who inherited the 800 title after the DQ herself is ineligible for XC because of a similar offense.

Does sound like the family knew.

This girl runs for Juventus track club coached by Derek Thompson who is Ajee Wilson's coach. The family admitted to knowing the rule in a meeting with their School so the violation was intentional. The IGHSAU ruled her ineligible and once her points were removed, it dropped her team from 1st to 7th at the State Meet. She is not eligible to compete in track next year but she will be able to run against collegians next spring. I'm sure the family is going through some tough times in the community but they knowingly broke the rules and now they have to deal with it.

a similar issue happened last fall with Alexa Ephraimson in Oregon who ran in a collegiate meet last fall. Oregon had a similar rule to Iowa. Oregon did declare Alexa ineligible and reversed the decision after an appeal. The difference IMO is the issue was addressed immediately and there was no intentional or conscious decision to hide her participation.

Stephanie Jenks is the other girl mentioned who knowingly forfeited her XC eligibility last fall to compete against collegians. Ironically, she competed in the Collegiate event that Ephraimson competed in. She is a triathlete and the XC season interferes with her triathlon schedule. She remains eligible for track and field.

The real loser here is Iowa HS athletics—Ciluffo's going to any college she wants with her 2:07 PR. All the cronies on the ISAU look like clowns now.

ausdifousous wrote:

The real loser here is Iowa HS athletics—Ciluffo's going to any college she wants with her 2:07 PR. All the cronies on the ISAU look like clowns now.

^this

I'm all for rules when they make a shred of sense. These kind of rules don't.

Alexa competed under the WIAA umbrella (WA state, not Oregon). They made an amendment on her behalf that allows future athletes to do the same.

For the record, Colorado has routinely seen high school athletes compete against collegiate and post-collegiate athletes in recent years. Elise Cranny competed against these types multiple times during her junior and senior years of high school. Haley Showalter has done the same in throws. And, college indoor meets with an "open" designation are flooded with high school athletes in Colorado these days.

I have the agree with those saying that this just makes the Iowa state association appear to be stuck in the mud of a generation or two ago.

And what is the logic of saying they can't compete in a collegiate meet, but on any given weekend they can find a road race that might have multiple professional athletes entered and run in it?

Yay Colorado.

What a dumb rule. Why on earth does it matter that she competed against collegians or pro's? What affect did that have on her hs races? Seriously what a bunch of dumb f&cking retards. The girl did nothing wrong! She didn't take drugs, didn't cheat in a race, didn't exhibit poor sportsmanship.

Iowa's board and officials who made this decision should be totally embarrassed and ashamed. What a crock.

I'm happy about the decision. She can run for a club all she wants without penalty against competition that will help her improve on her parents own dime. All you crybabies might feel different if your own kid was at a disadvantage in this way. State association rules are made for public institutions not private enterprises. As far as I'm concerned, the private schools can start their own leagues and conduct their own championship meets as well.

ausdifousous wrote:

The real loser here is Iowa HS athletics—Ciluffo's going to any college she wants with her 2:07 PR. All the cronies on the ISAU look like clowns now.

Exactly. These are dumb rules created and defended by dumb old men who don't care about the sport, only about their little fiefdoms. Any rule that takes away opportunities for athletes to face the best competition they can is wrong and bad for the sport.

Fan of following rules wrote:

I'm happy about the decision. She can run for a club all she wants without penalty against competition that will help her improve on her parents own dime. All you crybabies might feel different if your own kid was at a disadvantage in this way. State association rules are made for public institutions not private enterprises. As far as I'm concerned, the private schools can start their own leagues and conduct their own championship meets as well.

Wow, did you bother to look up Pleasant Valley High School before you posted this? It's a public school.

And how is your kid at a disadvantage because some other kid has run against collegiate athletes? Go find a road race this summer, enter your daughter, tell her she's competing against pros, and reap all the rewards you thought belonged only to private school kids.

Fan of following rules wrote:

I'm happy about the decision. She can run for a club all she wants without penalty against competition that will help her improve on her parents own dime. All you crybabies might feel different if your own kid was at a disadvantage in this way. State association rules are made for public institutions not private enterprises. As far as I'm concerned, the private schools can start their own leagues and conduct their own championship meets as well.

There's no unfair advantage gained by running against good competition on your own time. This rule can't be justified. Sure, she shouldn't have broken it, but the punishment doesn't fit the crime. At all.

Your kids are at a disadvantage because they have you as a parent, not because someone, somewhere, is racing and training harder than they are. It's pathetic that you'd coddle your children by supporting this nonsensical and draconian punishment.

Your kids are at a disadvantage because they have you as a parent, not because someone, somewhere, is racing and training harder than they are. It's pathetic that you'd coddle your children by supporting this nonsensical and draconian punishment.

This, definitely this.

Fan of following rules wrote:

I'm happy about the decision. She can run for a club all she wants without penalty against competition that will help her improve on her parents own dime. All you crybabies might feel different if your own kid was at a disadvantage in this way. State association rules are made for public institutions not private enterprises. As far as I'm concerned, the private schools can start their own leagues and conduct their own championship meets as well.

Running unattached in a college meet costs like five bucks.