Smart or germ-a-phobe?

I'd call it common sense. Sometimes I just leave the utensil part way under the lid though.

Being a germaphobe myself, I'd suggest adding the following:

Washing melons and other fruit grown underground with mild soap and water before cutting

Washing even triple-washed lettuce prior to serving

Wiping down frequently used wall switches with lysol weekly

Wahing all whites in bleach, always, and dark clothes in hot water despite fading potential

Avoiding shaking others' hands at all costs

Everything you listed makes you a germ-a-phobe.

No sex. Not really a problem for the OP.

#5 is the only sensible one. the others are stupid paranoia

do you eat white bread because it was bleached and its clean now? idiot. id love to see you live off grid

tetrahydrocannabinol runner wrote:

#5 is the only sensible one. the others are stupid paranoia

Actually not.

Public bathroom faucets. A guy goes from the toilet with soiled (feces) hands and turns on the faucet. You are next to use the faucet, you thoroughly wash your hands, then turn off the faucet that has feces residue on it. Does that sound smart?

Lemons in restaurants are notorious for not being washed, handled often, sitting on counters where old food has been maybe even meat that was cut and you're drinking that crap. Does that sound smart?

Mints in bars?? I'm not even going to explain that one. Do a google search on it.

You might has well share someone's used handkerchief.

tetrahydrocannabinol runner wrote:

#5 is the only sensible one. the others are stupid paranoia

I forgot the most obvious one. You turn raw chicken with tongs when grilling and then you use the same tongs to serve cooked chicken from the grill (same for a spatula used to turn raw hamburger and then using it to served cooked hamburger).

Your poor dinner guests!! You do not have a clue do you?

observer of nature3 wrote:

tetrahydrocannabinol runner wrote:

#5 is the only sensible one. the others are stupid paranoia

I forgot the most obvious one. You turn raw chicken with tongs when grilling and then you use the same tongs to serve cooked chicken from the grill (same for a spatula used to turn raw hamburger and then using it to served cooked hamburger).

Your poor dinner guests!! You do not have a clue do you?

And yet we have all attended too many BBQ's to count where this exact thing was done and I bet nobody on here has ever been sick from dirty tongs at a BBQ.

[quote]observer of nature3 wrote:

Public bathroom faucets. A guy goes from the toilet with soiled (feces) hands and turns on the faucet. You are next to use the faucet, you thoroughly wash your hands, then turn off the faucet that has feces residue on it. Does that sound smart?

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Dude, why would someone put feces on their hands? Where are you from?

Do you have a wife or girlfriend?

Would you also recommend Kleenex boxes for shoes?

Jesus you people are fvcking freaks.

When the next flu pandemic comes through you'll have no immunity to anything.

#1 and 3 are ludicrous. You could live like a hermit instead. Public life is germ-ridden. We benefit from getting sick occasionally. I assume that you stand several yards behind the pack at road races so as not to squeeze into the typhoid marys awaiting the gun.

if we didn't have fecal transfer between individuals we would never obtain the bacteria that colonize our gut and assist in proper immune system development & function. diseased mice (which have a unique gut microbiome depending on the condition) can be placed in cages with healthy mice (having their own distinct micobiome) and through acquisition of "healthy" bacteria via fecal transfer, the diseased mice reset their gut microbiome and can see improvements in health. point is that the stuff that people go "EEWWW GROSS!!!" to & overreact to in terms of cleanliness/sterilization methods is actually very important for the devo & function of our immune system - our immune system & bacteria/parasites/fungi etc. have been interacting & co-evolving for millions of years, and to suddenly wipe out these interactions with 'over-cleanliness' has harmful & unintended consequences. for instance, this study from 10 years ago(!) showed that if you wipe out commensal microflora in the murine intestinal track with antibiotics, these mice are much worse of than mice with a gut full of commensals when subjected to a compound that induces a colitis-like disease. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15260992and this was 10 YEARS AGO, just the tip of the iceberg, so much more research out there now suggesting extreme cleanliness is NOT good for normal devo & function of our bodies. ok end of rant.

Captain Oblivious wrote:

[quote]observer of nature3 wrote:

Public bathroom faucets. A guy goes from the toilet with soiled (feces) hands and turns on the faucet. You are next to use the faucet, you thoroughly wash your hands, then turn off the faucet that has feces residue on it. Does that sound smart?

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Dude, why would someone put feces on their hands? Where are you from?

Do you have a wife or girlfriend?

[quote]immunology phd wrote:

if we didn't have fecal transfer between individuals we would never obtain the bacteria that colonize our gut and assist in proper immune system development & function.

diseased mice (which have a unique gut microbiome depending on the condition) can be placed in cages with healthy mice (having their own distinct micobiome) and through acquisition of "healthy" bacteria via fecal transfer, the diseased mice reset their gut microbiome and can see improvements in health.

point is that the stuff that people go "EEWWW GROSS!!!" to & overreact to in terms of cleanliness/sterilization methods is actually very important for the devo & function of our immune system - our immune system & bacteria/parasites/fungi etc. have been interacting & co-evolving for millions of years, and to suddenly wipe out these interactions with 'over-cleanliness' has harmful & unintended consequences.

for instance, this study from 10 years ago(!) showed that if you wipe out commensal microflora in the murine intestinal track with antibiotics, these mice are much worse of than mice with a gut full of commensals when subjected to a compound that induces a colitis-like disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15260992

and this was 10 YEARS AGO, just the tip of the iceberg, so much more research out there now suggesting extreme cleanliness is NOT good for normal devo & function of our bodies. ok end of rant. [quote]

This is still no good reason to crap on your hands.

What's funny is that often people are meticulous about washing their hands when using a public restroom, and then they use their clean hands on the restroom door handle which is the first thing someone who didn't wash their hands had touched.

runner who professes wrote:

#1 and 3 are ludicrous. You could live like a hermit instead. Public life is germ-ridden. We benefit from getting sick occasionally. I assume that you stand several yards behind the pack at road races so as not to squeeze into the typhoid marys awaiting the gun.

Of course public life is full of germs and we are exposed constantly and that is NOT a bad thing. We are NOT discussing that truth.

We are talking about smart things to do, that have very limited cost, but increase odds of good health. A spatula that has served raw meat should NOT be used, without cleaning, to serve cooked meat. Would you use the same plate that you brought out the raw meat in to serve the cooked meat? I'm afraid to ask.

Lemons rinds are notorius germ carriers. Will you usually get sick if you drink a glass of water with germ laden lemon rinds? Rarely, but does that rind really improve your water? It makes sense to pass on the rind.

Greased Lightning wrote:

And yet we have all attended too many BBQ's to count where this exact thing was done and I bet nobody on here has ever been sick from dirty tongs at a BBQ.

I am sure that many comments such as, "that didn't settle that well" that people make after eating are the result of mild forms of ingesting food not prepared correctly.

Your's is the worst post on this thread because its a misuse of science. The study you linked doesn't say or imply that exposure to human feces is healthy.

I can link a number of studies that pinpoint exposure to human feces as a cause of numerous deseases. Just google it.

We will always be exposed to bacterium. Its not even in the discussion about being in a completely germ free environment. There is no such thing.

But it is good to avoid touching feces in a public bathroom, don't you agree?

(Do you have kids and teach them your ideas about how its healthy to touch feces in public bathrooms? I didn't think so)

[quote]immunology phd wrote:

if we didn't have fecal transfer between individuals we would never obtain the bacteria that colonize our gut and assist in proper immune system development & function.

diseased mice (which have a unique gut microbiome depending on the condition) can be placed in cages with healthy mice (having their own distinct micobiome) and through acquisition of "healthy" bacteria via fecal transfer, the diseased mice reset their gut microbiome and can see improvements in health.

point is that the stuff that people go "EEWWW GROSS!!!" to & overreact to in terms of cleanliness/sterilization methods is actually very important for the devo & function of our immune system - our immune system & bacteria/parasites/fungi etc. have been interacting & co-evolving for millions of years, and to suddenly wipe out these interactions with 'over-cleanliness' has harmful & unintended consequences.

for instance, this study from 10 years ago(!) showed that if you wipe out commensal microflora in the murine intestinal track with antibiotics, these mice are much worse of than mice with a gut full of commensals when subjected to a compound that induces a colitis-like disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15260992

and this was 10 YEARS AGO, just the tip of the iceberg, so much more research out there now suggesting extreme cleanliness is NOT good for normal devo & function of our bodies. ok end of rant.

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Gee if no one gets any trace of feces on their hands then I suppose you wouldn't mind if I served your food with unwashed hands after I had a movement!Didn't think so! Try again.

Captain Oblivious wrote:

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Dude, why would someone put feces on their hands? Where are you from?

Do you have a wife or girlfriend?