What is the point of the W 3000 meters at WJ Champs

How does it feel to be in such a snobby city?

Let's just run the 1000m for both men and women on the track side and the javelin and long jump on the field side.

You've got running, jumping, and throwing covered. What else do you need? Track meets now last 15 minutes.

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The women do not have one more event. They have the 3000m/5000m and the men have the 5000m/10,000m. I assuming that the reasoning behind this is that women are weak, slow, and all-around worse than men.

162430 wrote:

I assuming…

They are smarter though.

To open up the possibility of an epic quad win.

In the PDX wrote:

Seriously, why does there need to be a womens 3k race when they have the 5k and the 3k steeple? All this does is water down the 1500, 3k Steeple (to some extent) and the 5k.

Why do we need to give the women's competition 1 more event than the men's competition?

There's a men's 10,000 and not one for the women.

I can see having the same # of events for the women, but feel they should have the opportunity to run the 10000 instead of the 3k.

162430 wrote:

162430 wrote:

I assuming…

They are smarter though.

162430 wrote:

The women do not have one more event. They have the 3000m/5000m and the men have the 5000m/10,000m. I assuming that the reasoning behind this is that women are weak, slow, and all-around worse than men.

Agreed. It's old-fashioned and bone-headed to have the girls running shorter distances than the guys.

162430 wrote:

The women do not have one more event. They have the 3000m/5000m and the men have the 5000m/10,000m. I assuming that the reasoning behind this is that women are weak, slow, and all-around worse than men.

^ This.

GoldenMiles wrote:

162430 wrote:

The women do not have one more event. They have the 3000m/5000m and the men have the 5000m/10,000m. I assuming that the reasoning behind this is that women are weak, slow, and all-around worse than men.

Agreed. It's old-fashioned and bone-headed to have the girls running shorter distances than the guys.

The reason they don't run a jr womens 10k is that it would be an exact duplicate of the 5k with a couple green jerseys running away from the pack.

I think this argument is better suited for decathlon/heptathlon talk...

All things being equal, men should not figure skate, cheerlead or synchronize swim

GoldenMiles wrote:

162430 wrote:

The women do not have one more event. They have the 3000m/5000m and the men have the 5000m/10,000m. I assuming that the reasoning behind this is that women are weak, slow, and all-around worse than men.

Agreed. It's old-fashioned and bone-headed to have the girls running shorter distances than the guys.

Not really. The ladies 10000 is terribly uncompetitive. 3k/5k makes more sense.

Ladies tennis is only 3 sets, right? Ladies throwing gear is lighter, even basketballs I think, are different sized. Women play shorter golf courses.

That enough?

Wang wrote:

GoldenMiles wrote:

Agreed. It's old-fashioned and bone-headed to have the girls running shorter distances than the guys.

Not really. The ladies 10000 is terribly uncompetitive. 3k/5k makes more sense.

Ladies tennis is only 3 sets, right? Ladies throwing gear is lighter, even basketballs I think, are different sized. Women play shorter golf courses.

That enough?

yes those weak slow and nowhere near as muscular women like this need every bit of help hefting those racquets around.

Wang wrote:

GoldenMiles wrote:

Agreed. It's old-fashioned and bone-headed to have the girls running shorter distances than the guys.

Not really. The ladies 10000 is terribly uncompetitive. 3k/5k makes more sense.

Ladies tennis is only 3 sets, right? Ladies throwing gear is lighter, even basketballs I think, are different sized. Women play shorter golf courses.

That enough?

I still don't see why women can't run the same distance as men. I think of they run a marathon, they can run a 10K.

I don't think the men's 10,000M is that competitive either at the moment, simply because it's so rarely run. I mean, if an American male is considered the best in the 10K this year, then it's pretty obvious the Africans aren't taking the event seriously (in the same way they do the marathon, 800/1500, and 5,000M).

J.R. wrote:

In the PDX wrote:

Seriously, why does there need to be a womens 3k race when they have the 5k and the 3k steeple? All this does is water down the 1500, 3k Steeple (to some extent) and the 5k.

Why do we need to give the women's competition 1 more event than the men's competition?

There's a men's 10,000 and not one for the women.

I can see having the same # of events for the women, but feel they should have the opportunity to run the 10000 instead of the 3k.

This is absolutely correct. The days of lesser events for those "tender" women should be over.

It is nothing compared with swimming where they have different "styles" covering the same distances.

The point is for some very talented young women to line up and then compete with each other to see who can be the first to circle a 400 meter track 7.5 times.

It's great that mary won the race but let's put it into perspective - she was almost a minute off the women's WR. That would be like a junior male running something like an 8:17 3k. Great, but nothing exceptional. Certainly wouldn't win him any junior championships.

162430 wrote:

I assuming that the reasoning behind this is that women are weak, slow, and all-around worse than men.

I am sure that the Iowa High School association thinks so as the girls are only allowed to run the 1500 and 3k. While the boys run the more manly and much tougher 1600 and 3200.

At least in Iowa the girls are weaker and less able.

No meet should ever have both a 3000 and a 5000.

Let alone a 3000 steeple, too.

They used to have a 3000 and a 10,000.

Then a 5000 and a 10,000 for the Olympics.

A 1500, a 3000 and a 5000 is too watered down.

Just duplicate the boys schedule or have one less event.

This is a bad compromise.