F.A.C.T. If Michael Sam didn't reveal his orientation nobody would be talking about him

Yeah!

Same thing with Johnny Football. Flaunting his hetero-ness with the strippers and all. The nerve.

genuine random a hole wrote:Same thing with Johnny Football. Flaunting his hetero-ness with the strippers and all. The nerve.

I wish Michael Sam nothing but the best and I hope he makes the team. But I'm not sure he should get an award for who he has sex with.

Don't get the Johnny Football comparison. He won the top award for what he did on the field, and he's gotten publicity for his off-the-field antics, but I don't think anyone called him a hero or gave him an award for who he had sex with.

What's F.A.C.T.?

Insufferable Know-It-All wrote:

What's F.A.C.T.?

Fat Anonymous Child Trolling

And he most likely would have been drafted higher (possibly in the 4-5th rounds) with a better shot at making the team.

stick with eharmony wrote:

This is what's so sad about our Country. A player reveals his orientation and he is labeled as a hero and given all this attention. Well the guy was a 7th round draft pick. He aint making the team. If he does it will be because he came out. This is sad. Sam knew he likely would get cut so he came out to avoid that and to get attention. I have no respect for Michael Sam. I hope he gets what he deserves and gets cut on day 1.

Dude, chill out. You get your scrotum in a twist about the strangest things.

Ted Underhill wrote:

And he most likely would have been drafted higher (possibly in the 4-5th rounds) with a better shot at making the team.

You have got to be kidding me. The majority of analysts, scouts, and teams simply didn't think he was good enough to draft. And definitely not good enough to waste a 4th round pick on.

A last-rounder isn't as much of an issue. Few good players are still on the board and that's when moves (like picking Sam) are made for publicity.

As OP said, if he wasn't gay, no one would be talking about him. And honestly, chances are wouldn't have been drafted. He would have been a mid-priority free agent.

OP had a problem with Sam revealing his orientation. I am mocking him. OP does not have a problem with any hetero player "revealing" who they are but does have problem with Sam doing so.

I agree, he is a longshot to make a team. He hopes Sam gets cut on day one because he had the nerve to not hide his identity.

OP is a stooge worth mocking. Nobody is giving him awards based on who he is boneing.

FACT: Rosa Parks wouldn't have gotten so much publicity if she had been white.

Really... wrote:

Ted Underhill wrote:

And he most likely would have been drafted higher (possibly in the 4-5th rounds) with a better shot at making the team.

You have got to be kidding me. The majority of analysts, scouts, and teams simply didn't think he was good enough to draft. And definitely not good enough to waste a 4th round pick on.

Not kidding at all. Assuming no one outed him, I think he would have been picked higher. He was the SEC defensive player of the year, and that award carries some weight (like it or not). Some GM would have picked him. There is a long history of GMs over-thinking things for whatever reason (paranoid someone else may take a person, thinking they are smarter than everyone else (Josh McDaniel recently), etc.)and taking someone earlier than they should have.

I'm not saying he would have stuck in the league, let alone be a star, but I think some GM would have drafted him higher.

Ted Underhill wrote:

Really... wrote:

You have got to be kidding me. The majority of analysts, scouts, and teams simply didn't think he was good enough to draft. And definitely not good enough to waste a 4th round pick on.

Not kidding at all. Assuming no one outed him, I think he would have been picked higher. He was the SEC defensive player of the year, and that award carries some weight (like it or not). Some GM would have picked him. There is a long history of GMs over-thinking things for whatever reason (paranoid someone else may take a person, thinking they are smarter than everyone else (Josh McDaniel recently), etc.)and taking someone earlier than they should have.

I'm not saying he would have stuck in the league, let alone be a star, but I think some GM would have drafted him higher.

I'm just saying that they certainly wasn't the general consensus around the NFL. No one picked him because he simply wasn't good enough. Titles or not.

I just realized what I wrote. Sorry about that. Had to do some things and come back.

I meant:

I'm just saying that that certainly wasn't the general consensus around the NFL. No one picked him in earlier rounds. He simply wasn't good enough. Titles or not.

genuine random a hole wrote:

OP had a problem with Sam revealing his orientation. I am mocking him. OP does not have a problem with any hetero player "revealing" who they are but does have problem with Sam doing so.

I agree, he is a longshot to make a team. He hopes Sam gets cut on day one because he had the nerve to not hide his identity.

OP is a stooge worth mocking. Nobody is giving him awards based on who he is boneing.

every player in the draft was chosen for one reason: a team thought the player could contribute on the field. One player was chosen in spite of the fact he's not NFL material - Sam. Has nothing to do with anyone "hiding" anything. Nobody but butt pirates, carpet munchers & pole smokers give a crap who you like having sex with. Grow up & quit supporting the stupid notion that one is a hero or a courageous pioneer for having the poor taste to blabber incessantly about liking dick.

T. Dungy - a guy who pioneered the way for black college QBs in the 70s & is acknowledged as a class act & first rate football mind - got obliterated by clowns like you - white guys no less! - who had the ignorance to call him a bigot.

All Dungy said was he wouldn't have drafted Sam, since the guy can't play at the NFL level & is a huge distraction..

Sam actually signed a deal with some reality TV show to follow him around training camp - but didn't have the class to inform the Rams of this until after they chose him.

He's a whiny, crying b*tch, and I hope he gets punked for that - not because he likes taking it up the butt.

So, he should have hidden his sexual orientation, right? That's what you're suggesting?

I vividly remember noting that he was rated 2nd-3rd round just before he came out. His poor showing at the combine brought him down to the 4th-5th rounds like the previous poster mentioned, with analysts adding in a "coming out" factor down to last round/undrafted (some GMs anonymously admitted that they wouldn't draft him at all simply because of his orientation). Not sure where you were getting your info from, but it's not accurate.

Really... wrote:

I just realized what I wrote. Sorry about that. Had to do some things and come back.

I meant:

I'm just saying that that certainly wasn't the general consensus around the NFL. No one picked him in earlier rounds. He simply wasn't good enough. Titles or not.

Exactly. He's milking this publicity for all he can. If he just wanted to be seen as normal, then why is he embracing all this attention and being lauded as a hero? He actually said he just wanted to be recognized for his performance, and everything he's doing goes directly against that.

The government isn't oppressing gays. If they want to be seen as normal, then they should act normal. And no, I don't mean normal as in heterosexual. I mean normal as in not attention-seeking.

Sam is an attention whore. He's a weak NFL prospect who decided to use his homosexuality to get attention. I'm with Dungy I wouldn't draft this retard. If I'm drafting a gay prospect I"m drafting the guy who plays like Barry Sanders or Tom Brady.

SEC defensive player of the year. And if he hadn't revealed he was gay, he wouldn't have been a 7th round draft pick. He would have been a first or second round pick.

Not true at all. Sam was never considered a top PRO prospect.