Hebron, Kentucky Training Group

Old Navy Women wrote:

Does anyone else think this group is nothing but a bunch of drug cheats and EPO users? How can you race every weekend and be able to do it year after year. Not to mention that Russian lady is a cheat herself and has had athletes busted recently.

Maybe you should look back a few decades. Frequent racing and (gasp!) improvement from year to year was pretty common back in the 70s & 80s.

Old Navy Women wrote:

Does anyone else think this group is nothing but a bunch of drug cheats and EPO users? How can you race every weekend and be able to do it year after year. Not to mention that Russian lady is a cheat herself and has had athletes busted recently.

Groups like this contribute nothing to the sport- Larisa brings in Russians/Eastern European and Africans for however long, they take the money (Larisa gets her cut), and they go home. Many of them can't speak English, so when they win they can't speak to the media. They take money from area runners who would create more of a story and give races a reason to have prize money. This is why races should go American only with their prize money. What a waste for races to have prize money, when it's going to a revolving door of foreigners and their agents.

Revolving Door- You are 100% correct and I could not agree more. Just very Bullshit of of races letting them run..And I know they are juiced. Jynocel Basweti would run a marathon every week and then got busted, in her group, Shortly before another guy first name Nixon got busted and he was a money whore.. Groups like this do not belong in AMERICA, YES AMERICA. Speak english and give back to the community's you DIRT bag's stole from!Larisa go back home, no one wants you invading every race in the country, because you see nothing but Dollar Signs.

Race Directors. sTOP allowing these athletes into your race..

This group needs to be tested. How can they still,race everyweekend. Please someone go test them.....or is it we want to keep these B,C level dopers around taking hard working us runners money.

Calling out, all race directors please do your research on this group and i guarntee you wont,let them in your race! Cheats!

Yes, it is pretty dispicable.

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I've seen Larisa at a cold (25*) fall road race in a fur coat talking to her morrocan athlete who dropped out because he didn't have a hat or gloves. All she did was give him a cup of coffee to hold on to. She was concerned but didn't have the sense to actually help him get any more clothes, even his own warm ups.

Thank you! very. Well said. Group is and should be banned. Ship her(larisa) back to her russiam country...ant believe we want to keep her and them her. Matter of time!

Dint forget...nixon cheprotich who was served for doping a few years ago as well. He ran 2:15 at pittsburgh. Busted for noromone.. also under larisa.

Still calling a spade a spade- this group brings nothing to the sport or an event. Larisa and her athletes are just in it for the money and will do whatever it takes to bring in the dough every weekend. Agents need to banned too.

Agreed. Please read this post race directors!

Silly Americans, you are so foolish and trusting.

Lets ban these cheats.....race directors start outting your foot down. They will have no where else to go but back to poor land!

revolving door wrote:

Still calling a spade a spade- this group brings nothing to the sport or an event. Larisa and her athletes are just in it for the money and will do whatever it takes to bring in the dough every weekend. Agents need to banned too.

You make them sound like pro runners.

Anyone making money is a pro, but relative to cost of living for where they come from they are getting rich. They come over for 6 months, make money, and go back home- runners we've never heard of. It's a revolving door of runners coming and going. They're competing at races where there isn't drug testing. Even if they have a doping past the race directors are too naive to know. Sometimes they randomly get caught, but this whole time they were doping and the agents getting $$$ and nothing is being done to ban them.

Bingo..

As i said and will keep saying.. race directors bam this group from competing in your races. They dont care about us, your community or support, all they see is give me money.....

Frustrating to see this happen, soon enough one of these smaller races will drug test and boom...that bit@h will be out of money runners.

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Anyone else feel like this thread has like, 3 different posters maximum?

As a Cincinnati running native who's run some fast times (sub 13:40 5k PR, sub 63:30 HM), it's very frustrating to see this group of runners in the area. I don't mind getting beat in a race--that's what makes me want to be even faster, but "Bs hebron groupk" hit the nail on the head when he said the following:

Bs hebron groupk wrote:

They dont care about us, your community or support, all they see is give me money.....

The point being that from a race director's standpoint, elite athletes are there to ENHANCE the experience of the race for everyone. Not just to take the prize money and walk away. A good example of this is the recent return of prize money to the Gasparilla HM:

"Gasparilla celebrated its 38th anniversary in 2015, but this was only the second year for the return of pro racing to Tampa’s premier road race weekend after prize money had been dropped after 1997. But when Ryan Hall came to Tampa in 2009 for a solo effort, long-time race director Susan Harmeling saw how much excitement and energy a top runner could bring. That had the Gasparilla board of directors rethinking its no-prize money policy, and with the invaluable assistance of their title sponsor Publix Super Markets the top end of the sport has returned with all the attendant attention it brings." - Toni Reavis

Race Directors: please consider your use of elites wisely and do not bring in athletes who do not enhance the experience of the event

Cincy Guy! You are correct! Hebron has nothing to offer and or bring to the table.