pretty impressive kid. The real question you are probably going for is given the same scores and similar background, if the kid were white with a general "white" name, would he have been accepted to all 8 ivies?
Bet he's laughing at this right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWuJHbVZBQg
Track_Marathoner_the_real_1 wrote:
pretty impressive kid. The real question you are probably going for is given the same scores and similar background, if the kid were white with a general "white" name, would he have been accepted to all 8 ivies?
He might have a 25% chance of being admitted to Brown/Cornell/Penn.
If he were asian, probably
This is total bull****. Half of all students with perfect scores are rejected from Harvard.
classic - both parents are in medicine and he lives in a town with an average income of $82,000...yet he will score diversity points for a college.
good on him tho- sounds like a great person - seriously.
Nobody on this website cares about your son. Stop boasting about him on LetsRun.
ruggiero wrote:
classic - both parents are in medicine and he lives in a town with an average income of $82,000...yet he will score diversity points for a college.
good on him tho- sounds like a great person - seriously.
This ^^^^
On one dimension, he is, "black". But his parents are wealthy. So is the institution he ultimately chooses being made more diverse? Not even close. His acceptance merely perpetuates the same issue - entry into the "elite" is a multi-generational effort, and no matter how good/smart you are, you won't get in.
This is not an issue of race. Its an issue of economics. Wake up and smell the dim sum...
Is there any reason that someone would be accepted at some of the very top schools but not all of them?
Star wrote:
Is there any reason that someone would be accepted at some of the very top schools but not all of them?
Exactly, if you get into Harvard wouldn't you pretty much get into all the other schools? Most folks I know who went to Harvard didnt mess with the lower Ivys.
Nope... Asians have it much harder than whites to get into schools, because they are an overrepresented group.
Star wrote:
Is there any reason that someone would be accepted at some of the very top schools but not all of them?
there is a lot of luck involved in admissions - you hear about kids getting into harvard but not Penn or whatever. esp at a small school, the athletes and the legacies can take up all the 'white, suburban, ACT 33, pre med" spots.
that's why he applied to all 8 - you need some luck to get into the ivies.
ruggiero wrote:
classic - both parents are in medicine and he lives in a town with an average income of $82,000...yet he will score diversity points for a college.
good on him tho- sounds like a great person - seriously.
this. One of the wealthiest kids in my high school graduating class was a black girl with prominent white lawyer parents, and got accepted to multiple Ivies despite relatively subpar test scores and GPA. Still a very bright and exceptional person, but I don't think driving a brand new Benz in high school counts as disadvantaged. I don't think it's a big deal, how many black kids go to Ivies anyways? Good for them.
One of my buddies in high school was african-american and his father was the vice president at one of the most prestigious universities in the country. This kid (again, one of my good friends) was as dumb as a door nail and one of the laziest people i have ever met. 7 years later he graduated from the school both undergrad and law school (also very prestigious). I had numerous other far more qualified friends get rejected from said school even with parents as faculty.
If I were black these stories would embarrass, not encourage me.
He's obviously very impressive, but on top of the fact that he comes from a well-off family, his African-sounding name makes me think he comes from a family of immigrants and so his ancestors would not have been subject to whatever was happening in this country 50 or 150 years ago.
Another article I read said he first generation from Ghana. I believe that article said "he is not your typical African American". Borderline racist comment but dead on.
Also, I thought it said both parents were nurses so he might not be that 'well off'. Correct me on that if wrong. (as I know you will)
Okay. Thanks for the random comment. This kid did well on his SATs. No reason to believe he wouldn't have been accepted, regardless of race.The real question here is why anyone bothered to write an article about him...plenty of people do this every year (people of all races).
Realism wrote:
ruggiero wrote:classic - both parents are in medicine and he lives in a town with an average income of $82,000...yet he will score diversity points for a college.
good on him tho- sounds like a great person - seriously.
this. One of the wealthiest kids in my high school graduating class was a black girl with prominent white lawyer parents, and got accepted to multiple Ivies despite relatively subpar test scores and GPA. Still a very bright and exceptional person, but I don't think driving a brand new Benz in high school counts as disadvantaged. I don't think it's a big deal, how many black kids go to Ivies anyways? Good for them.
dasjdhaskdjhasd wrote:
One of my buddies in high school was african-american and his father was the vice president at one of the most prestigious universities in the country. This kid (again, one of my good friends) was as dumb as a door nail and one of the laziest people i have ever met. 7 years later he graduated from the school both undergrad and law school (also very prestigious). I had numerous other far more qualified friends get rejected from said school even with parents as faculty.
If I were black these stories would embarrass, not encourage me.
Your friend did his undergrad and law school from a prestigious university in 7 years total and you accuse him of being dumb and lazy?
If I were black these stories would embarrass, not encourage me.[/quote]
Yeah, I bet all those rich white kids who are 4th generation Ivy league feel really torn up about getting in to those schools because they know in some cases they were only accepted because if not their families would stop donating otherwise, or they wouldn't build a new boathouse or a new wing on the library. I bet they are so torn about it that they give up their places to 'more deserving' kids. Al Gore and Bill Frist's kids must have real trouble sleeping at night knowing that they kept more-qualified Asian-American kids from matriculating at Harvard and Princeton.
ruggiero wrote:
classic - both parents are in medicine and he lives in a town with an average income of $82,000...yet he will score diversity points for a college.
good on him tho- sounds like a great person - seriously.
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