Pay welfare women $5000 to get sterilized. Good idea?

Yes, I support. In terms of economics, the government probably spends more than $5000 each year for a welfare goblin with a few kids after adding up food stamps, tax credits, Section 8, any other program I might be forgetting. Offer the program for men as well.

Considering that most people that have a gaggle of kids and are dirt poor probably do not understand the long-term cost of children, they will take the $5000 and run.

But the religious right would put up a huge fight, so it would never work in this country.

And not men?

Jeff Wigand wrote:

And not men?

Yeah, the world would be a much better place if we mass sterilized irresponsible, oversexed, selfish, lazy men.

How about we get schools to stop teaching abstinence-only sex ed, and work our way up from there?

Jeff Wigand wrote:

And not men?

Great Idea. $5000 to people who contribute nothing to this country is well worth it. It should also help reduce violent crime.

Slow the breeding of lazy, potential criminals.

excellent idea, or even better, require it in order to receive any welfare benefits.

You guys know this was actually done in the US, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#United_States

Nobody's talking about coercion, though admittedly the line between an incentive and an imperative is blurry at best.

Mojo Jerkin wrote:

You guys know this was actually done in the US, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#United_States

No, we're all ignorant, public school-educated idiots.

Imagine all the young bucks who would cut your throat for $5000.

All they need to do is get a vasectomy!!!

Everybody wins. Less illegitimate wefare babies, and less crime!

runfaraway wrote:

Jeff Wigand wrote:

And not men?

Yeah, the world would be a much better place if we mass sterilized irresponsible, oversexed, selfish, lazy men.

The NBA players union would never agree to this.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

And not men?

Do men get pregnant?

iieik wrote:

Jeff Wigand wrote:

And not men?

Do men get pregnant?

No, but they can get MULTIPLE people pregnant in a short period.

Overall, it would likely be a "beneficial" program from an Xs and Ys perspective, but I don't think I like it from a moral perspective. Yes, it would be optional, but how "optional" would it really be for some young people in dire situations? It'd be a terrible situation to have someone unable to conceive, when they're financially and emotionally able, because of a rash decision they made when desperate and 18 years old.

Yes. A single poor man can be responsible for many more children than a single poor woman.

And the sterilization process is easier for men.

I might pay $7500 to sterilize the OP.

Interesting question... Why $5000? Just curious.

Oversimplified Question: From an economic/financial standpoint, anyone know how long it would take the govt to break even on such a venture?

runfaraway wrote:Yeah, the world would be a much better place if we mass sterilized irresponsible, oversexed, selfish, lazy men.

Nah, you'd need to keep at least one intact to propagate the human race.

bgfbg wrote:

iieik wrote:

Do men get pregnant?

No, but they can get MULTIPLE people pregnant in a short period.

Overall, it would likely be a "beneficial" program from an Xs and Ys perspective, but I don't think I like it from a moral perspective. Yes, it would be optional, but how "optional" would it really be for some young people in dire situations? It'd be a terrible situation to have someone unable to conceive, when they're financially and emotionally able, because of a rash decision they made when desperate and 18 years old.

No, it makes more sense to target females since they are the ones who get pregnant. And sterilization doesn't have to be permanent.

I think $5000 is too much. For the demographic that you want to target, $500 would be enough.