16:58 5K for 12-Year Old

Buck the Canuck wrote:

http://www.clinesrunningcorner.com/archives2012/alexanders%20show%20results%20of%20hard%20work.pdf

Wow... his father certainly sounds like he has a good vision for his son. And the PRs are also quite impressive, although they are probably outdated in terms of his fitness by now.

Um . . . ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

Seriously, for perspective, Hasay ran 16:47 for legit 5K a few days after turning from 12 to 13 years old. I happened to witness that.

So 16:58 for 12 year old boy is certainly good but not earthshaking. His upside depends in part on how many miles he's already putting in.

SLOpoke wrote:

Um . . . ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

Seriously, for perspective, Hasay ran 16:47 for legit 5K a few days after turning from 12 to 13 years old. I happened to witness that.

So 16:58 for 12 year old boy is certainly good but not earthshaking. His upside depends in part on how many miles he's already putting in.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't girls often more physically mature at that age?

Age 10 or early 11 may be pretty close. After that, starts changing fast and by the time it's 12 going on 13, boys should have clear edge.

My impression.

SLOpoke wrote:

Age 10 or early 11 may be pretty close. After that, starts changing fast and by the time it's 12 going on 13, boys should have clear edge.

My impression.

Ah, I see... I need to brush up on my physiology of 10-13 year olds haha. But in all seriousness, you brought up the Sarah Baxter example. Do you have any similar times of 12-year old boys (or even faster?) to 16:58? Like what's the fastest time a 12-year old boy has ran (if you know)?

Sorry I meant Jordan Hasay lol

SLOpoke wrote:

Age 10 or early 11 may be pretty close. After that, starts changing fast and by the time it's 12 going on 13, boys should have clear edge.

My impression.

Females have a relatively much bigger aerobic engine in their early teens. Fact.

How Fast Is This Kid? wrote:

SLOpoke wrote:

Age 10 or early 11 may be pretty close. After that, starts changing fast and by the time it's 12 going on 13, boys should have clear edge.

My impression.

Ah, I see... I need to brush up on my physiology of 10-13 year olds haha. But in all seriousness, you brought up the Sarah Baxter example. Do you have any similar times of 12-year old boys (or even faster?) to 16:58? Like what's the fastest time a 12-year old boy has ran (if you know)?

RunningUSA.org was my go-to site for single age records but they are no longer maintained. Too bad.

You can see that another poster offered a site but I don't think it's as good. No Garritsens, for one thing.

Thanks for the input guys. That link has the 5K record for age 12 as 16:43, so the 16:58 seems pretty good. From that picture on the Cline's Running Corner link, it also looks like he isn't very physically mature.

The short distances are nothing special. The 32 and 5k are what you'd expect of a young kid dong far more training than the other good(not phenom) kids

I came in after Elijah Alexander-Macias at the too hot to handle, thought to myself this little kid is going to run out of gas, then we hit 1mile then 2 miles switching places then we were done.

Final countdown wrote:

The short distances are nothing special. The 32 and 5k are what you'd expect of a young kid dong far more training than the other good(not phenom) kids

Agreed talented for sure, but unlikely to make a major dent when all is said and done with h.s., let alone college and beyond.

When I was running age group in the late 70s through early 80s, there would've been plenty of kids that would've handled him the middle distances. I remember in running camp one of the guys in my age group ran about 17:40 for the legit 5k course...he was 10 years old.

With all of that said, I hope he has continued success and truly enjoys running.

Check this link above. Found it at US Track & Field News on the Records page link.

At 12 years old, Lucas Bourgoyne set the age group World Records of 15:36.8 in the 5000 and 9:56.7 for the 2 mile. He is from USA.

Based on details on that site, these are records run on a track, not road races or cross country.