Medicine Ball Training

big circles (on one leg)

wood choppers (on one leg with squats)

standing russian twist (on one leg)

rocky solo

diagonal crunch

Thanks! Will definately try them

The best medicine ball exercises for runners are the ones you don't do.

Why u say that? I think many elites u medicine ball in their strength training

You must understand that just because an elite does something does not prove that that practice is useful.

Medicine ball throwing does not meet any of the requirements to improve any aspect of fitness or functional ability. It will not make you stronger or faster or more explosive or better conditioned. The only thing throwing a medicine ball will do is improve your proficiency at throwing a medicine ball.

If so, is there any supplemental training that works in your view?

The ball workouts I recommended are strength/core/balance workouts and can for sure help running when done, especially those on one leg at a time as it mimics running, similar to plyometrics and do not involve throwing.

If someone thinks something is going to help their training then it will. Same goes with the opposite.

Just run more

When you're an elite, you can worry about the stuff that will give you that extra 1%.

Overhead backwards throws

squat throws straight up

single, double and triple hop throws forwards

This is Charlie Francis's routine.

no $hitty coaches wrote:

You must understand that just because an elite does something does not prove that that practice is useful.

Medicine ball throwing does not meet any of the requirements to improve any aspect of fitness or functional ability. It will not make you stronger or faster or more explosive or better conditioned. The only thing throwing a medicine ball will do is improve your proficiency at throwing a medicine ball.

looks like one $hitty coach got confused, to improve your knowledge pleas watch this video Dan Pfaff seminar part 3

no $hitty coaches wrote:

You must understand that just because an elite does something does not prove that that practice is useful.

Medicine ball throwing does not meet any of the requirements to improve any aspect of fitness or functional ability. It will not make you stronger or faster or more explosive or better conditioned. The only thing throwing a medicine ball will do is improve your proficiency at throwing a medicine ball.

I dont disagree with your first sentence. But you can do many other things like squats and such that do help with ancillary muscles.

You have got to be kidding me.

MORON.

I don't have time right now for the long story, but the TL;DR; is, you've got to lift heavy. So unless you can find a 200 lbs medicine ball, you're better off joining your local CrossFit Box instead of wasting your time with your silly hobbyjogger exercises.

Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:

You have got to be kidding me.

MORON.

I don't have time right now for the long story, but the TL;DR; is, you've got to lift heavy. So unless you can find a 200 lbs medicine ball, you're better off joining your local CrossFit Box instead of wasting your time with your silly hobbyjogger exercises.

You don't have to lift heavy to run fast eg Kim Collins tons of elastic strength and med ball throwing, MORON.

Have you ever wondered as to why power-lifters and olympic-lifters are not the fastest people on this planet?

My javelin throwers can squat 240 bench 170 clean 140 with body weight 88-92 but there is no way that they are going to run faster then any of my sprinters.

There is a lot of things which can be done with med ball, dynamic core stability, mobility, power etc...

For most of the athletes and coaches the problem is where to assign med ball workout in the session.

Those who use the phrase "elastic strength" are indoctrinated into a bad paradigm. There simply is no such thing.

no shitty coaches wrote:

Those who use the phrase "elastic strength" are indoctrinated into a bad paradigm. There simply is no such thing.

And those who think that “elastic strength” is a brainwash term, are definitely uniformed and unknowledgeable taking into account that there is a huge elastic contributions of connective tissue during maximal and sub-maximal performances of explosive jumps and throws.

And not only explosive jumps and throws, but all movement powered by muscular contraction has a component contributed by stored energy. But that doesn't mean that it represents a discrete "type" of strength that can be selectively trained by lifting weights with certain set/rep schemes or doing plyometrics.

So, how do you call stored “energy”?

ELASTIC?!

“All sorts of strength parameters exist. You can train many areas of strength including: absolute strength, isometric strength, elastic strength, relative strength, speed strength, core strength, stabilizer strength, etc. Strength training is much more in-depth than back squat, bench press, and power clean. We love to measure weight lifting strength, but how often to we measure the strength of core stability or ankle dorsi-flexion for example? Well rounded athletes train many areas of strength. More importantly, the elite athlete must possess the specific strengths necessary to compete and excel in the sport or event they participate in. Become familiar with specific strength demands of the sport you train, not just the strength demands of a generic athlete” Dan Pfaff

"Elastic strength refers to a reflex type of force production," Irving "Boo" Schexnayder

You can start using Dan Pfaff GS Circuits, it's a good starting point.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040701024912/http://www.drtrack.com/CoachingEducation/SpecificStrength.shtml