Well, I think it would be great if Kenenisa could break 13 minutes, and it seems he has a chance, but he will never run faster than 12:54 again, based on what I've seen of him.
Well, I think it would be great if Kenenisa could break 13 minutes, and it seems he has a chance, but he will never run faster than 12:54 again, based on what I've seen of him.
aren't they tearing that track down?
chet wrote:
Well, I think it would be great if Kenenisa could break 13 minutes, and it seems he has a chance, but he will never run faster than 12:54 again, based on what I've seen of him.
Didn't he just beat a bunch of 12:5x guys a few days ago?
Silly.
If Rupp, or MO, had run the 10 000m, and won it, everyone would be talking about how they beat a world class field and how great they look for some big races this summer. KB runs, easily, comfortably wins, and based on that performance you say he'll never run faster than a time he very nearly beat last year when he was clearly on recovery from injury and not running well.
Key points to take from this:
1) Bekele is easily capable of breaking 12:54 again.
2) You don't know what you're talking about.
Sure it's 12:54 he won't break, and not 12:53?
wtfunny wrote:
Silly.
If Rupp, or MO, had run the 10 000m, and won it, everyone would be talking about how they beat a world class field and how great they look for some big races this summer. KB runs, easily, comfortably wins, and based on that performance you say he'll never run faster than a time he very nearly beat last year when he was clearly on recovery from injury and not running well.
Key points to take from this:
1) Bekele is easily capable of breaking 12:54 again.
2) You don't know what you're talking about.
You aren't very bright...I never said that I based my assertion on his Pre performance. I stated before Pre that Kenenisa will never run faster than 26:40 again, and of course I am correct. Kenenisa did not "easily" win Pre, as Merga was right on him. The 10,000m field at Pre was not strong. I am much more capable of appraising an athlete's potential than you are.
LM wrote:
Sure it's 12:54 he won't break, and not 12:53?
Yes, I am sure, or I wouldn't have written it.
And again, for the moron who says Kenenisa will "easily" break 12:54 again, it has been 6 years since Kenenisa has been under 12:50.
chet wrote:
Bekele wants a fast 5000.
And Farah really wants to race him, but he's been bleeding from the ears for three days. And Rupp sits by his side through the night to change his bedding.
Bekele has no need to run a 5,000m time trial again. Every 5,000 he runs he will simply run to win or to practice for the 10K. If he wanted to run 12:53 again he could. If he doesn't it's because none of his races went 12:53 or faster.
I will calculate his actual 5000 ability once he actually runs a 5000.
Is this going to be like last year again where he is racing seemingly every week?
chet wrote:
LM wrote:Sure it's 12:54 he won't break, and not 12:53?
Yes, I am sure, or I wouldn't have written it.
People write all sorts of things they aren't sure of, or even downright don't believe, in order to reactions out of people.
The problem with arbitrary times like that where a runner is at is variability and chance. Two possibilities exist:
1)12:54 is comfortably below what you think Bekele is capable of running (i.e you are thinking he would have to have a perfect, flawless race to even run high 12s/13 flat), but this seems unlikely as even in recent times he has run 12:55/26:43.
2) You think that if everything goes perfect he could run 12:54. I dislike this option because you can't account for elements of chance. He could be running that 12:54 race and get a big gust of wind down the homestraight and suddenly its a 12:53 instead. Sure, this is an exceptionally improbably scenario...but you are claiming certainty yourself.
Are you saying that if he gets in a race where the winner goes 12:50 or better he won't break 12:54, or he just won't be in a race that even goes under 12:54?
You said "based on what I've seen of him". Outside his Pre race, what have you seen of him this year?I doubt he, or anyone, will need to run 26:40 or better to win a big 10 000m this year. I do expect he'll be in a 5000m that goes fast enough to warrant a 12:54. Given he ran 12:55 last year, coming back slowly from injury, I think your prediction is silly.You also seem to think you're much more capable of appraising Bekele's potential than Bekele is. Is your last name Ventolin?
that's tomorrow!
"Kenenisa did not "easily" win Pre"
-yes, he actually did. i was standing in the outside lane on the homestretch for all 25 of his laps. he was completely in control the entire time. he kicked only when he needed to. very EASY win for him. i can assure you that your apparent analysis ability from internet sources and what you saw on a live feed are waaaay different than what you might see in person. stop being a tool.
Thumbs up for your name.
And like you know your rear-end from your elbow with any of this. If you did you would at least be able to provide something to substantiate your useless claims.
KB has been injured, has gradually come back to health (ran world lead 10K last year along the way) and is now fit and racing himself into his world-leading form - leading up to WC he will only get stronger and sharper, meaning back to his familiar sub-12:50 fitness.
crazy raisin wrote:
Bekele has no need to run a 5,000m time trial again. Every 5,000 he runs he will simply run to win or to practice for the 10K. If he wanted to run 12:53 again he could. If he doesn't it's because none of his races went 12:53 or faster.
I will calculate his actual 5000 ability once he actually runs a 5000.
I agree with this. I can't see KB time trialing anymore for the purpose of trying to run a super fast time. He owns 2 world records and it's unlikely that he'll challenge those again. So at this point in his career it's all about getting the win and/or fine tuning for the big one. Another gold medal would go a long way towards cementing KBs legacy as GOAT. That's what he and his coach have their eyes on. Nothing more.
12:54 would be very impressive. He would basically break Dieter Baumanns "white men record". We will see, I doubt he can do it this year.
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