Does this class of runners contend for the best of all time?
Does this class of runners contend for the best of all time?
there's no one good in it
Idk they all look pretty goood there can potentially be 4 sub 4's
maybe. Arroyo's 1:47 is the most impressive thing so far (well also cheserk's 8:39i but he's a year old so not as impressive). Outside of that none of the guys have done anything (yet!) that makes them stand out as better than the top guys most years. But, when taking all of them combined, the sheer number of sub 4:10 and high 8:40's - mid 8:50's 2 mile guys is just insane and has got to be the deepest class ever at that high a level. I'm still waiting for some of these guys who ran very low 4 minutes last year to do something exciting in the mile this year. Last year was absolutely the fastest class of Junior milers ever. It'd be kind of ridiculous if all of them failed to go sub-4.
2001
800 dude wrote:
2001
seconded. webb, hall, ritz, said ahmed, marc sylvester, to name a few.
Class of 2004 by far. A future Olympic silver medalist, not one but two future American NCAA XC champs, a total of four guys who would be untouchable in almost any other year. Then in 5th we have Ben True who just led USA to silver World XC medals with his 6th place and then ran a 13:14 this year.
The big four:
G. Rupp (2003 Pan American Jr. 10k gold, 2nd at Footlocker 2003, USATF Jr. 5k champ over Withrow and McDougal, 4:01.8 mile, 5:18.5 2k HSR, 8:03.67 3k HSR, 13:37.91 HSR/AJR, 29:09.56)
Matt Withrow (2003 Footlocker champ putting G. Rupp in 2nd place, 8:57.3 3200m (converts to about 9:00.5+ 2M), 14:13.95)
Josh McDougal (4th Footlocker 2003, 8:08.34 3k (converts to about 8:47.41+ 2M), 8:48.11 2M, 8:50.4i over G. Rupp tying Dathan Ritzenhein for 7th all time at the time, 14:07.55)
Shadrack Kiptoo (3rd at Footlocker 2003, 8:45.44 2M winning over McDougal )
Also: Garrett Heath, Mohamed Trafeh, Lopez Lomong
2001 7 athletes running sub 9 two milers, lead by Dathan Ritzenhein 8:44.4
2004 19 athletes running sub 9 two milers, lead by Galen Rupp 8:42.22+
running is better wrote:
800 dude wrote:2001
seconded. webb, hall, ritz, said ahmed, marc sylvester, to name a few.
it's funny you say marc sylvester. 1:48 HS runner and did absolutely nothing afterwards.
2007
The question was best high school class you sh!t faced cockmaster.
I am a 2001er and there has never been a class like us before or since.
1962 0 Dave Deubner 9:15.9
1963 0 Tracy Smith 9:11.6
1964 1 Gerry Lindgren 8:40.0i
1965 1 Mike Ryan 8:57.8
1966 3 Rick Riley 8:48.4
1967 1 Pete Romero 8:54.6
1968 2 Scott Hiles 8:56.4
1969 6 Steve Prefontaine 8:41.5
1970 6 Mike Keough 8:54.0
1971 7 Dave Merrick 8:43.6
1972 12 Curtis Beck 8:48.8
1973 11 Craig Virgin 8:40.9
1974 11 Rich Kimball 8:46.6
1975 13 Eric Hulst 8:45.0
1976 11 Eric Hulst 8:44.6
1977 18 Alan Scharsu 8:45.8
1978 11 Jeff Nelson 8:36.3
1979 6 Alan Scharsu 8:44.0
1980 11 Rickey Pittman 8:49.4 +
1981 10 Jon Butler 8:49.9 +
1982 6 Harold Kuphaldt 8:55.1 +
1983 8 Eric Reynolds 8:44.0
1984 1 Joe Falcon 8:56.5 +
1985 5 Scott Fry 8:49.8 +
1986 8 Eric Mastalir 8:48.0 +
1987 7 Eric Henry 8:55.4 +
1988 2 Ernie Shepard 8:59.2 +
1989 1 Chris Lewis 8:53.8 +
1990 3 Bryan Dameworth 8:56.4 +
1991 1 David Gurry 8:59.3+
1992 1 Angel Martinez 8:59.5
1993 0 Webb Shelley 9:03.8 +
1994 2 Meb Keflezighi 8:54.9 +
1995 0 Micah Davis 9:01.5 +
1996 0 Marius Bakken 9:00.7 +
1997 3 Ryan Andrus 8:58.
1998 1 Andy Powell 8:59.2 i
1999 6 Franklyn Sanchez 8:49.6 i
2000 10 Dathan Ritzenhein 8:44.1 +
2001 7 Dathan Ritzenhein 8:44.4
2002 9 Chris Solinsky 8:52.0 +
2003 17 Chris Solinsky 8:46.4
2004 19 Galen Rupp 8:42.22 +
2005 6 Mark Matusak 8:51.
2006 14 A.J. Acosta 8:46.3
2007 16 Matt Centro Jr. 8:41.5
2008 12 German Fernandez 8:34.4
If you mean quality, 2001 by a mile. The big 3 set ARs in mile, 2 mile, 5k, half marathon and marathon.
Plus - mark Sylvester and johnathan Johnson both ran 1:48 that year.
If you are talking about depth, 04,07,08,13 are all good candidates.
The number after the year is the number of sub 9 athletes, so:
1. 2004 (19)
2. 2003 (17)
3. 2007 (16)
4. 2006 (14)
5. 2008 (12)
6. 2000 (10)
Which actually confirms what I think about 2001 vs 2000, that 2000 was deeper than 2001.
What about 2011?
At the top wrote:
If you mean quality, 2001 by a mile. The big 3 set ARs in mile, 2 mile, 5k, half marathon and marathon.
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If we go by post high school quality then 2004 wins because Galen Rupp with just his Olympic 10k silver beats all of that.
swerve wrote:
What about 2011?
I don't know, I stopped paying attention after 2010 because having an age suspect Cheserek not being smacked around by Lukas V. ruins it for me.
Like anybody cares about the 3200
Conversion from 3200m to 2M is around +3.2 secs, so at least these 10 from 2010 were sub-9.
1.Jeremy Elkaim 8:46.08a
NJ Livingston
2. Joe Rosa 8:48.55a
NJ West Windsor-Plainsboro North
3. Jake Hurysz 8:49.76a
NC Eastern Alamance
4. Tyler Anyan 8:52.835a
GA Brookwood
5. Brian Shrader 8:53.09a
AZ Sinagua
6. Sam Pons 8:55.40a
CA South Pasadena
7. Brandon Lord 8:55.42a
TN Baylor
8. Matt Mizereck 8:55.75a
FL Leon
9. Elias Gedyon 8:56.37a
CA Loyola
10. Weston Strum
8:56.42a
And 3k that would be sub 9 converted in:
Jim Rosa 8:12.00a
Justin Vilhauer 8:17.37a
Wade Meddles 8:18.25a
And Lukas V. with 8:29 2M
So 14 at least, maybe a few more who only broke sub 9 in actual 2M race somewhere.
the OP is a partisan crackpot wrote:
Like anybody cares about the 3200
2001 8 sub 4:10 milers led by Alan Webb 3:53.4
2004 12 sub 4:10 milers led by Galen Rupp 04:01.8
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