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J.R.
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/22/2012 7:45PM - in reply to sc42 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

sc42 wrote:

My thought are:

1. Frank Murphy's book "A Cold Clear Day" was a great look at the costs that some women have paid pushing to the edge of their potential.


Buddy Edelen was a woman?
Pappas12
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/22/2012 8:30PM - in reply to LetsRun.com Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Oh please,
there are more non running nut jobs out there. There are many distance runners who are quite healthy...mentally and physically. "Ferocity in her eyes...suppressed danger?" Imagine a female writing that about Pre. Subjective at best.
coach
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/22/2012 9:03PM - in reply to Pappas12 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Silence of Great Distance is the best book I have ever read about women's running.I read it once a year while I was coaching HS girls in the late 90s and early '00s Perhaps now some of you will read it to get an understanding of the demands placed on young impressionable women. It is interesting that Suzy Favor came off as the atypical Wisconsin runner one who was able to handle/brush off the pressure. Little did we (Tegen)know
The Guarantee Man
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/22/2012 9:21PM - in reply to coach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There is not one current top female marathoner that is normal. Not one of them is any more stable than SFH.

Shalane is the most self centered athlete in the game

Desiree will never be as good as she talks

Kara is stupid

Amy is way more balanced than those in front of her but still strange

Deena still thinks she is relevant.

If you think about it. Ryan Hall is not liked because he is strange like our top women.

Not one of those people above could you sit down with and have a beer and enjoy the conversation.

Just the opposite for most of the men. Meb, Abdi, Ritz, Gotcher all seem pretty normal.
The Thing from Another Thing
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/22/2012 9:45PM - in reply to The Guarantee Man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Okay, "Guarantee Man," your comments are nothing but a pile of crap.
All of the women you defame are far more interesting than any of the men you mention.
DKCCC
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/22/2012 9:50PM - in reply to The Guarantee Man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

The Guarantee Man wrote:

There is not one current top female marathoner that is normal. Not one of them is any more stable than SFH.

Shalane is the most self centered athlete in the game

Desiree will never be as good as she talks

Kara is stupid

Amy is way more balanced than those in front of her but still strange

Deena still thinks she is relevant.


Please show me evidence of all of this. Like accusing Desi of being all talk because last time I checked Shalane is the one that does that saying that she "will do anything to beat the competition" and then not really doing that. Amy is normal as far as I can tell. Kara is stupid?! Yeah ok.
William Randolph Hearst
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/22/2012 11:15PM - in reply to LetsRun.com Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Whay a slimey reporter. The worst sort of YELLOW Journalism I've seen in years. He just keyed off of SFH's story and dug up old garbage. Proves that the Tribune Company is being run out of town by fan boy websites operated on a volunteer basis by High School coaches, retired Civil Servants, perverts impersonating press writers, etc.
Relax
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 12:16AM - in reply to luv2run Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Relax runner losers . Girl was making a living. Seriously get real and shut up. You'll never know what it's like to be at that level . Bri g a women in many ways is harder than being a man; just different so just kill this " out of line thread now " or we will

---/ women
Puchisnacoff
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 4:28AM - in reply to Relax Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So the women on US Soccer are all normal? IDTS.

Suzy probably has some serious issues and likely would have had them whether she was a librarian or Olympian. I serious doubt SFH's difficulties derive from her days at UWis.

Every coach should want his athletes to have superior power/wight ratios. But it's a mistake to not watch out for eating issues.

A scandal like the ones described at ncst and Wis. can ruin a program. A coaching staff should have supervised meals and have a target weights that are healthy. Questionable behavior shouldn't be tolerated and kids who don't listen should be sent home.
Petronica
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 8:50AM - in reply to Puchisnacoff Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The problem - and I mean THE PROBLEM - for all women is that they have been coddled for far too long. Look at the Lifetime Network - in every movie the husband or boyfriend is the bad guy/abuser and the woman is always portrayed as the victim. Never is the woman the abuser. Women always have to be protected. If a guy did what Suzy Favor Hamilton did, he would be attacked for abandoning his family and young daughter. Yet, I hear no one mentioned how SFH was running around with weirdos while her young daugther alone with no mom. Susan Rice ... she lied and was egregiously incompent about Benghazi - yet when anyone critical about her performance - he is labeled a sexist. Hillary Clinton - wow - she hiding like a baby to prevent explaining her incompentence in the State Dept. and with Libya - she cowering at home so she want have to account for her actions - or lack. And no one taking her to task. She has a fake illness and falls and has fake concussion - and confined to home by so-called fake Doctor's Orders - like a little baby. And no one calling her out. Ben Rothlesberger has a concussion and he immediately trying to get back on field. She has a fake one and it debilitates her for weeks! What a pansy. We need to stop coddling women and let them stand on their own feet!
nora virus
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 9:05AM - in reply to Petronica Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Petronica wrote:

The problem - and I mean THE PROBLEM - for all women is that they have been coddled for far too long. Look at the Lifetime Network - in every movie the husband or boyfriend is the bad guy/abuser and the woman is always portrayed as the victim. Never is the woman the abuser. Women always have to be protected. If a guy did what Suzy Favor Hamilton did, he would be attacked for abandoning his family and young daughter. Yet, I hear no one mentioned how SFH was running around with weirdos while her young daugther alone with no mom. Susan Rice ... she lied and was egregiously incompent about Benghazi - yet when anyone critical about her performance - he is labeled a sexist. Hillary Clinton - wow - she hiding like a baby to prevent explaining her incompentence in the State Dept. and with Libya - she cowering at home so she want have to account for her actions - or lack. And no one taking her to task. She has a fake illness and falls and has fake concussion - and confined to home by so-called fake Doctor's Orders - like a little baby. And no one calling her out. Ben Rothlesberger has a concussion and he immediately trying to get back on field. She has a fake one and it debilitates her for weeks! What a pansy. We need to stop coddling women and let them stand on their own feet!


Two things

1) Kara is stupid


2) Clinton did indeed have a stomach virus, it's going around in DC. learn something!


3) knock knock

who's there?

kelly lundy

kelly lundy who?

actaully my name is suzy favor hamilton, i'm a three time olympian, mother, wife, and proud owner of two dachshunds;
Crazy White Beaches
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 10:04AM - in reply to LetsRun.com Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
scarred
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 10:16AM - in reply to Crazy White Beaches Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm a female and every team I have been a part of had a handful of insane women. Eating disorders were normal. Had 4 that were seriously anorexic, in the hospital almost dying. Would recover and relapse. Most of them were bi-polar or depressed and on some medication, but would go back and forth in fear it would ruin their running. I remember most breaking down and sobbing uncontrollably after an off workout or race. To be a runner at a high level, I do agree you have to be somewhat of a nut job anyways. It was scarring and made me never want to return to a team again. They rub off on each other too.
Beasty
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 10:19AM - in reply to lane 8 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

lane 8 wrote:

[quote]LetsRun.com wrote:

The Chicago Sun-Time Rick Telander has written a column on SFH entiteld:

Suzy Favor Hamilton not alone, it seems, in going off track

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/telander/17142109-452/suzy-favor-hamilton-not-alone-it-seems-in-going-off-track.html

B]Telander wrote:
How crazy were the UW runners? One told me how, because of anorexia and bulimia, she had not had her period in nine years. One ran until her bones started breaking. Stephanie Herbst, a national champion, won an NCAA 10,000-meter title race in Bloomington, Ind., in which another obsessed young woman, a deanís-list pre-med student from North Carolina State who had set a U.S. collegiate record six weeks earlier, ran off the track in mid-race, climbed a seven-foot fence, sprinted down a city road and then flung herself off a 35-foot high bridge. The runner survived but was paralyzed for life.
[quote]

Your thoughts?

Rick Telander totally lies!! The race was not in Bloomington but Indianpolis. Kathy Ormsby did not have to climb any fence. She just ran out the gate down the street a couple hundred meters and jumped off the bridge. Anybody in the stands could have seen her jump if they had been looking. If RT has to lie about these simple facts, one had to wonder how much else he is lying about?? What other facts did he decide to enhance to make a good story??? Makes one wonder.
Those are mine, now Your thoughts?


He's a lib with lots of anti-Romney writings out there so facts don't matter to him. They're just used when convenient while manipulating other liberals.
yygg
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 10:27AM - in reply to scarred Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

scarred wrote:



They rub off on each other too.




Pics?
gonchar
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 10:38AM - in reply to The Guarantee Man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Guarantee Man,
Noted the absence of Fleshman. In fact, Lauren Fleshman is NOT in the category of obsessive/neurotic or worse- distance running elites. She is definitely the exception to the general trend. She is as inwardly reflective as anyone in distance running I've ever met. Grounded.
please.....
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 10:46AM - in reply to scarred Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

scarred wrote:

I'm a female and every team I have been a part of had a handful of insane women. Eating disorders were normal. Had 4 that were seriously anorexic, in the hospital almost dying. Would recover and relapse. Most of them were bi-polar or depressed and on some medication, but would go back and forth in fear it would ruin their running. I remember most breaking down and sobbing uncontrollably after an off workout or race. To be a runner at a high level, I do agree you have to be somewhat of a nut job anyways. It was scarring and made me never want to return to a team again. They rub off on each other too.


I don't believe you.
really slow learner
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 11:04AM - in reply to please..... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Eating disorder = Crazy person that blames others.

100% of the people that I have met with an eating disorder always blames society's image of women or teammates or parents or a coach. How about blaming the person that is responsible? You are F-ing crazy.
Gov. Spitzer
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 11:11AM - in reply to Petronica Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Have you ever heard of Eliot Spitzer?

Yeah, that TV commentator who was once the governor of NY...

Petronica wrote:

If a guy did what Suzy Favor Hamilton did, he would be attacked for abandoning his family and young daughter. Yet, I hear no one mentioned how SFH was running around with weirdos while her young daugther alone with no mom.
just sayin...
RE: Chicago Sun Times Columnist: Favor Hamilton isn't alone - lots of female distance runners are total nut jobs as well!! 12/23/2012 12:13PM - in reply to really slow learner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
all female LDR are crazy. eating disorders, OCD, mental. If you've met enough of them (i've known dozens very well, close friends) and it's an unstable group of humans. Sad but true..anybody arguing this is in denial. Sorry.
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