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tony soprano
Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 9:42AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Does anyone know who AS coached before Rupp and how they did?
Woodley Park
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 11:02AM - in reply to tony soprano Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
terribly. Embarrassingly poor performances in the marathon. Abject failure to meet any of his lofty goals.
TLW
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 11:27AM - in reply to Woodley Park Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Agree with the poster above. He used to coach some guys in Oregon who lived in the altitude house including Dan Browne. They were mostly marathoners I believe, and all ran very sub par under Salazar.
Flagpoled
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 11:35AM - in reply to tony soprano Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
And Bill Bellichik (sp?) was a mediocre coach before Tom Brady became his starting QB.
Twitched
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 11:53AM - in reply to tony soprano Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Either way, it seems that Salazar has finally figured it out. That's how it works. You dont start off knowing everything. You learn from failure.
before all that
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 12:00PM - in reply to Twitched Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
tommy ansberry (28.01 and usatf champ)
jim howarth (brought to sub 4 first year out of college)
todd lewis (28.30)
steve ave
marc davis (AR 2 mile, olympian steeple)
shannon lemora (3.37?)
chris katon (3:59, 13:5X)
nigerian dude
chad something
coachie poo.
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 12:46PM - in reply to before all that Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

before all that wrote:

tommy ansberry (28.01 and usatf champ)
jim howarth (brought to sub 4 first year out of college)
todd lewis (28.30)
steve ave
marc davis (AR 2 mile, olympian steeple)
shannon lemora (3.37?)
chris katon (3:59, 13:5X)
nigerian dude
chad something


If you want to be considered a good coach all you need is talented athletes.

Not everyone can get talent to run fast or improve, but if you get talent you are way ahead of the rest.
Track Fan 1979
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 1:15PM - in reply to tony soprano Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He coached Mary Slaney in 96/97 and Ann Marie Lauck back in 97/98. Some success with Slaney, none with Lauck.
asdfasdf
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 1:19PM - in reply to Track Fan 1979 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
His strategy pre-rupp was to try to get 13:30 guys tons of endurance and make them 2:10 marathoners (kinda like what the hansons are doing—successfully—with 14:00 5k runners) but it just wasn't working. Now his strategy is to find the most genetically gifted runners and jam as much science as he can legally get away with down their throats and hope for the best. Who was the HS girl he coached for a few years along with Rupp? Nobody remembers her.
I do run run run
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 2:28PM - in reply to asdfasdf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yes his earlier plans with getting them tons of endurance didn't work out quite as well, one of the backdrops was related to the altitude house.
It wasn't the training that didn't work, many of them simply peaked. The altitude house proved a tough experiment because many of the runners became sick, their bodies weren't able to handle big altitude adjustments. It hindered their training, and just didn't work out. When the original group lived there, Dan Brown was the only one strong enough to keep pushing his altitude, and spend more time in the house each day. It also was hard for some of the runners cause they were starting families, getting married, but yet had to live in the altitude house, sleep there, etc.

Nike has given him great support so he has attracted some of the best out there to be coached by him, especially with his success with Rupp. The HS girl you're referring to, just to clarify is Caitlin Chock. Caitlin was quite talented, but contrary to your implication Salazar actually made the right decision with her. She was way too thin and did indeed suffer from an eating disorder. So Salazar had her race a few times and realized she really just needed to back way from it and focus on her health. Salazar's team helped take care of her for a while, and she got her health back together and retired from pro running.
Twitched
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 2:49PM - in reply to asdfasdf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

asdfasdf wrote:
. Now his strategy is to find the most genetically gifted runners and jam as much science as he can legally get away with down their throats and hope for the best. .


Uh huh. And which DNA analysis techniques does he use? Which genes do Rupp and Farah have?
douglas burke
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 3:32PM - in reply to Twitched Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
who is salazar coaching now besides these?
rupp
farah
lombard
centro with assitance from the oregon assistant coach

is he still coaching?
jackie areson
alvina begay
coachingwonderfully
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 3:47PM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Salazar coaches rupp, farah, and lindsay allen. Don't know about Begay. He did for trials.

Magness coaches Areson and O'Lionaird. That's the whole group I think.
douglas burke
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 3:54PM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

douglas burke wrote:

who is salazar coaching now besides these?
rupp
farah
lombard
centro with assitance from the oregon assistant coach

is he still coaching?
jackie areson
alvina begay


and ritz
irun
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 4:03PM - in reply to tony soprano Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
wasn't he coaching dan browne for a while? or was that some other nike oregon project coach?
Option no. 2
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 6:59PM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If by saying lombard instead of O'lionard you are implying that O'Lionard is also juiced - you are a moron.

If not, please disregard the above comment and have a nice day.
douglas burke
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 7:47PM - in reply to Option no. 2 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
i got the name wrong, not accusing anyone.
Sir Lance-alot
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 9:35PM - in reply to Twitched Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Twitched wrote:


asdfasdf wrote:
. Now his strategy is to find the most genetically gifted runners and jam as much science as he can legally get away with down their throats and hope for the best. .


Uh huh. And which DNA analysis techniques does he use? Which genes do Rupp and Farah have?


Don't know about that, but Al's best secret sauce is the following: he took out loads of his blood from his peak 1982 era, and has stored it all these years. He was hoping to use it for a comeback, but he never really got healthy enough to use it. So he's kept for his athletes. And this how he goes about giving it to them: occasionally, he puts a little ether in the artificial air that all his athletes huff at night, and they are knocked out. Then he transfuses some of that vintage '82 blood of his into the guys. They know nothing of it. He figures: if they get caught, it will be on me, not them. So far, so good.

There you have it.
feel rick rolled
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 10:07PM - in reply to Sir Lance-alot Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I thought this thread was gonna be about AlSal coaching Pre.
themanontherun
RE: Alberto Salazar's coaching pre-Galen Rupp 2/21/2012 10:14PM - in reply to asdfasdf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

asdfasdf wrote:

Now his strategy is to find the most genetically gifted runners and jam as much science as he can legally get away with down their throats and hope for the best.


Never mind the fact that Rupp had never run a long distance race in his life prior to meeting Salazar, that guy just has an eye for genetics. What kind of moron honestly believes that there are champions everywhere?
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