Does anyone know who AS coached before Rupp and how they did?
Does anyone know who AS coached before Rupp and how they did?
terribly. Embarrassingly poor performances in the marathon. Abject failure to meet any of his lofty goals.
Agree with the poster above. He used to coach some guys in Oregon who lived in the altitude house including Dan Browne. They were mostly marathoners I believe, and all ran very sub par under Salazar.
And Bill Bellichik (sp?) was a mediocre coach before Tom Brady became his starting QB.
Either way, it seems that Salazar has finally figured it out. That's how it works. You dont start off knowing everything. You learn from failure.
tommy ansberry (28.01 and usatf champ)
jim howarth (brought to sub 4 first year out of college)
todd lewis (28.30)
steve ave
marc davis (AR 2 mile, olympian steeple)
shannon lemora (3.37?)
chris katon (3:59, 13:5X)
nigerian dude
chad something
before all that wrote:
tommy ansberry (28.01 and usatf champ)
jim howarth (brought to sub 4 first year out of college)
todd lewis (28.30)
steve ave
marc davis (AR 2 mile, olympian steeple)
shannon lemora (3.37?)
chris katon (3:59, 13:5X)
nigerian dude
chad something
If you want to be considered a good coach all you need is talented athletes.
Not everyone can get talent to run fast or improve, but if you get talent you are way ahead of the rest.
He coached Mary Slaney in 96/97 and Ann Marie Lauck back in 97/98. Some success with Slaney, none with Lauck.
His strategy pre-rupp was to try to get 13:30 guys tons of endurance and make them 2:10 marathoners (kinda like what the hansons are doing—successfully—with 14:00 5k runners) but it just wasn't working. Now his strategy is to find the most genetically gifted runners and jam as much science as he can legally get away with down their throats and hope for the best. Who was the HS girl he coached for a few years along with Rupp? Nobody remembers her.
Yes his earlier plans with getting them tons of endurance didn't work out quite as well, one of the backdrops was related to the altitude house.
It wasn't the training that didn't work, many of them simply peaked. The altitude house proved a tough experiment because many of the runners became sick, their bodies weren't able to handle big altitude adjustments. It hindered their training, and just didn't work out. When the original group lived there, Dan Brown was the only one strong enough to keep pushing his altitude, and spend more time in the house each day. It also was hard for some of the runners cause they were starting families, getting married, but yet had to live in the altitude house, sleep there, etc.
Nike has given him great support so he has attracted some of the best out there to be coached by him, especially with his success with Rupp. The HS girl you're referring to, just to clarify is Caitlin Chock. Caitlin was quite talented, but contrary to your implication Salazar actually made the right decision with her. She was way too thin and did indeed suffer from an eating disorder. So Salazar had her race a few times and realized she really just needed to back way from it and focus on her health. Salazar's team helped take care of her for a while, and she got her health back together and retired from pro running.
asdfasdf wrote:
. Now his strategy is to find the most genetically gifted runners and jam as much science as he can legally get away with down their throats and hope for the best. .
Uh huh. And which DNA analysis techniques does he use? Which genes do Rupp and Farah have?
who is salazar coaching now besides these?
rupp
farah
lombard
centro with assitance from the oregon assistant coach
is he still coaching?
jackie areson
alvina begay
Salazar coaches rupp, farah, and lindsay allen. Don't know about Begay. He did for trials.
Magness coaches Areson and O'Lionaird. That's the whole group I think.
douglas burke wrote:
who is salazar coaching now besides these?
rupp
farah
lombard
centro with assitance from the oregon assistant coach
is he still coaching?
jackie areson
alvina begay
and ritz
wasn't he coaching dan browne for a while? or was that some other nike oregon project coach?
If by saying lombard instead of O'lionard you are implying that O'Lionard is also juiced - you are a moron.
If not, please disregard the above comment and have a nice day.
i got the name wrong, not accusing anyone.
Twitched wrote:
asdfasdf wrote:. Now his strategy is to find the most genetically gifted runners and jam as much science as he can legally get away with down their throats and hope for the best. .
Uh huh. And which DNA analysis techniques does he use? Which genes do Rupp and Farah have?
Don't know about that, but Al's best secret sauce is the following: he took out loads of his blood from his peak 1982 era, and has stored it all these years. He was hoping to use it for a comeback, but he never really got healthy enough to use it. So he's kept for his athletes. And this how he goes about giving it to them: occasionally, he puts a little ether in the artificial air that all his athletes huff at night, and they are knocked out. Then he transfuses some of that vintage '82 blood of his into the guys. They know nothing of it. He figures: if they get caught, it will be on me, not them. So far, so good.
There you have it.
I thought this thread was gonna be about AlSal coaching Pre.
asdfasdf wrote:
Now his strategy is to find the most genetically gifted runners and jam as much science as he can legally get away with down their throats and hope for the best.
Never mind the fact that Rupp had never run a long distance race in his life prior to meeting Salazar, that guy just has an eye for genetics. What kind of moron honestly believes that there are champions everywhere?