CollegeDude
PSU Mid D Training 1/14/2012 9:36PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Somebody just lay it out.
what really happens
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 12:02AM - in reply to CollegeDude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
80 minute run Sunday
60 on tuesday
60 on thursday

on monday, wednesday and friday you have your workouts which consist of sandusky chasing you around the track. the slowest guy in the workout.... well he is just a little more sore the following day
laying it on thick
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 1:42AM - in reply to CollegeDude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1) train hard & get really fit to run fast at indoor meets in Jan. (this will garner numerous letsrun fanboy threads).

2) flame out later in the spring/summer when it matters most

3) repeat
your answer
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 4:12AM - in reply to laying it on thick Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1. Fall down.
2. Get dq
3. Try to blame everyone else for it.
Dress for success
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 5:16AM - in reply to your answer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
As usual, haters gonna hate. Must suck to be D3.
Do the math...
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 9:15AM - in reply to Dress for success Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Haters can hate...

But stats don't lie. True account.
Baller
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 11:39AM - in reply to CollegeDude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah your right, Loxsom running 1:45 consistently throughout the summer is blowing up and peeking too early. Definitely.
8675309
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 11:45AM - in reply to Baller Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I do not think it is fair to say they flame out come outdoors. Cas ran outstanding after his freshman year all the way into july(world jr's). I know from looking at the results that they do have a few guys that struggle outdoors after monster indoors. But that could be a number of factors and if someone told me I could run 2:19.x for the 1000 and maybe struggle outdoors alittle bit. I'd take that
gucci burr
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 1:00PM - in reply to what really happens Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

what really happens wrote:

80 minute run Sunday
60 on tuesday
60 on thursday

on monday, wednesday and friday you have your workouts which consist of sandusky chasing you around the track. the slowest guy in the workout.... well he is just a little more sore the following day


that is hilarious. literally lol'd
Good Stuff
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 1:25PM - in reply to gucci burr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lets not forget the qualifying process for NCAA's - indoors you have to run one of the top 16 times in the country to make it - so you better be ready to go during the indoor season if you want to make it. Outdoors you just have to run one of the top 48 times in your region, then it is head to head.

PSU's top guys have made it to both indoor nationals and outdoor finals the last few years. Loxsom ran 1:45 three times in June, Foster ran 3:39 at the end of June. Dawson ran an outdoor PR of 1:48 in his last race last spring while red-shirting. Doesn't sound like a flame out to me.
CollegeDude
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 3:48PM - in reply to Good Stuff Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
So no one can just give some insight? Like how does cas train different than the dawsons and foster, etc? Come on PSU guys I know you read this
Angelo22
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 4:12PM - in reply to CollegeDude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The key to the PSU MD success is to recruit 1:18 600/1:49 800 guys like Loxsom and 1:49 high school guys like Foster. Any DIII coach would get similar results from working with guys like this. D1 is all about recruiting. You are looking in the wrong place if you are trying to find MD training secrets here.
susqurun
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 5:11PM - in reply to Angelo22 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Angelo22 wrote:

The key to the PSU MD success is to recruit 1:18 600/1:49 800 guys like Loxsom and 1:49 high school guys like Foster. Any DIII coach would get similar results from working with guys like this. D1 is all about recruiting. You are looking in the wrong place if you are trying to find MD training secrets here.


Okay... Pretty sure both Foster and Loxom were 1:51 guys in high school. Also, Creese was 1:54 in high school. He pred by two or three seconds and then ran a 27-28 final 200. I saw him do it. It was amazing. Foster ran about 2;24/2:25. He hit the wall after leading through 800...

Explain those results. How does Creese go from 1:54 to 1:51-1:52 as a SPLIT?
soamazing
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 9:49PM - in reply to CollegeDude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You either hit your splits in training or you get sent to Sandusky's place.
Reality Bath
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 10:10PM - in reply to soamazing Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You guys are way off base with the Sandusky jokes. 17 or 18 year-old freshmen are way too old for Jerry.
I read the whole thing
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/15/2012 10:15PM - in reply to susqurun Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

susqurun wrote:


Angelo22 wrote:

The key to the PSU MD success is to recruit 1:18 600/1:49 800 guys like Loxsom and 1:49 high school guys like Foster. Any DIII coach would get similar results from working with guys like this. D1 is all about recruiting. You are looking in the wrong place if you are trying to find MD training secrets here.


Okay... Pretty sure both Foster and Loxom were 1:51 guys in high school. Also, Creese was 1:54 in high school. He pred by two or three seconds and then ran a 27-28 final 200. I saw him do it. It was amazing. Foster ran about 2;24/2:25. He hit the wall after leading through 800...

Explain those results. How does Creese go from 1:54 to 1:51-1:52 as a SPLIT?


Just because Creese's 800 pr from high school is 1:54, it doesn't mean that is the fastest he could of ran. He ran 4:10 his junior year, and just split 1:52 in a 1000m. Realistically he had the ability to run around 1:50 last spring, but never got the opportunity. Still a great race though.

Penn State seems to really focus on mid distance. If you put a lot of resources into a specific event in college, there will be great results. Look at XC at Wisconsin, Jumps at Florida, or the 400 at Baylor. Penn States training is going to be very similar to any other mid distance training, they just have the athletes and training group to get top times.
asfsafsafd
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/16/2012 12:09AM - in reply to I read the whole thing Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Oh get out of here. I ran with a 4:12 high school miler and he ran the 800 multiple times and never ran faster than 1:55. My state has a 4:10-4:15 guy every year, but only a 1:50 800m runner a few times a decade. A 4:10 does not equal 1:50. Admit it, Creese improved. A lot.
JellyBelly
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/16/2012 10:19AM - in reply to asfsafsafd Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't argue he has improved a lot and the PSU coaches clearly know what they have been doing looking at Foster, Loxsom, Dawson...

Creese did run a 152.5 split at NBIN last year in the 1600 SMR, and the 1:54 is from his junior year. He got sick during his senior year outdoor and probably did not perform up to his potential.

http://www.nationalscholastic.org/indoornats/result/971/
http://www.usatf.org/events/2010/USAYouthOutdoorTFChampionships/results/F553.asp
PSU yea
RE: PSU Mid D Training 1/17/2012 11:42AM - in reply to CollegeDude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post