So 18 Guys have already gotten the 3k Auto Qualifier

wow, yeah, between MPSF and the last chances, there will be 20 something auto's in that event (with Derrick redshirting). Puskedra can probably hit that, and guys like Sambu, Pat Casey, Batty. They wolnt all declare, but since the 3k is the last individual event, most do incase their first race doesnt go so well and they have a fall back.

Damn, it is crazy how deep the distance events are getting. I cant keep up with these kids. There are sub-4/7:55/13;50 guys I have never heard of

illegal tracks

2 autos in women's 800 at GVSU big meet in MI on friday

They´re all on drugs.

How many guys is too many for a 3k on a 200m banked track at a championships? 18 is for sure manageable, but you start getting up to the 20s and it begins to become a cluster f**k, especially since the 3k is a notoriously tactical affair at NCAAs on the mens side.

sucks for the guys, who until this weekend, thought that their 7:55 or so would probably get them in, guess what, probably not.

boom boom boom boom wrote:

How many guys is too many for a 3k on a 200m banked track at a championships? 18 is for sure manageable, but you start getting up to the 20s and it begins to become a cluster f**k, especially since the 3k is a notoriously tactical affair at NCAAs on the mens side.

can't they use semifinals?

crimson wrote:

boom boom boom boom wrote:

How many guys is too many for a 3k on a 200m banked track at a championships? 18 is for sure manageable, but you start getting up to the 20s and it begins to become a cluster f**k, especially since the 3k is a notoriously tactical affair at NCAAs on the mens side.

can't they use semifinals?

If they get 20+ they may have to

They cant just add semi-finals to the 3k a week before the meet. The meet is only two days long, anyway. When the DMR field was too large 2 years ago they ran 2 heats, final on time.

RJP LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

.wordsmith. wrote:

illegal tracks

lol good thing there's a time conversion.

They're all doping, anyone who is better than me is clearly on drugs

It's blatantly obvious that the 5 to the mile tracks marked by cones on the inside of the track yield times that run about .3 per lap quicker. That doesn't sound like much, but 1.5 seconds for a mile or 2.8 seconds for a 3k or 4 seconds for a 5k make a difference.

[quote]Bootsy wrote:

(They're all doping, anyone who is better than me is clearly on drugs[/quote)

Quick integrity test for you: Barry Bonds, clean or dirty?

Jose Canseco is an honest man.... without drugs he said he

would only have hit about 190 home runs...see how powerful drugs are?.... without epo Lagat is a washed up 35 yr old with a lifetime best of 3:54 That is still good, but he is no God without his stash... nike can not afford to have this guy come up dirty. He'll get a lifetime job with them to keep his trap shut.....

Exactly, that is why coaches take their athletes to the illegal tracks.

face the fact wrote:

It's blatantly obvious that the 5 to the mile tracks marked by cones on the inside of the track yield times that run about .3 per lap quicker. That doesn't sound like much, but 1.5 seconds for a mile or 2.8 seconds for a 3k or 4 seconds for a 5k make a difference.

face the fact wrote:

It's blatantly obvious that the 5 to the mile tracks marked by cones on the inside of the track yield times that run about .3 per lap quicker. That doesn't sound like much, but 1.5 seconds for a mile or 2.8 seconds for a 3k or 4 seconds for a 5k make a difference.

Except that you are wrong on this and on the rules and on the measurement. The NCAA rule

From Rule 10 "Indoor Track: Facilities and Conduct", page 130:

[NCAA Track&Field Rule 2009-10.pdf]

"Where the inside edge of the track is bordered by a white line, it shall be

marked additionally with cones. The cones shall be at least 15 centimeters

high. Cones shall be placed on the track so that the outward face of the cone

coincides with the edge of the white line closest to the track when the track is

surveyed based on the existence of a curb. Otherwise, cones shall be placed

on the infield adjacent to the line. The cones shall be placed at distances not exceeding 2 meters on the curves and 10 meters on the straightaway."

It is my understanding that the UW track was not designed with a curb and was thus measured based on a 20cm margin and not the 30 cm margin.

And what is 'illegal' about it? It is "Oversized", as you know, and the NCAA uses adjustments for different track configurations in its qualifying marks as far as I know. You are not going to set a WR or AR or CR on it but that is irrelevant to the point at hand.

By way of note, that track could not be used if it were constructed now because it is over 300m - the limit since a few years back for any new track construction. However, it is only modestly beyond the 300m limit.

Also, does anyone know of a banked track that is larger than 200m?

yea, i have one in my basement.

26mi235 wrote:

Also, does anyone know of a banked track that is larger than 200m?