Did the "Oregon Plan" ruin their chances of a top 3 finish?

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13 years ago 11/23/2010 9:22pm EST

I saw a interview with Oregon's assistant coach saying Oregon always goes out aggresivly, it is the wat Vin coaches.

Interview-

http://www.goducks.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=500?DB_OEM_ID=500

If that was their plan on that course and in those conditions(windy), maybe it explains why some(AJ and 2 DNFs) did so poorly and others (Luke and Centro) did well.

It seems to be an all or nothing plan unlike OSU. Is that the best way to coach a "team" or have "individuals" do well?

Luke Puskedra- A++ great performance

Matt Centrowitz- A solid job for not being a 10k guy

Daniel Mercado- B- should be up with Centro

Parker Stinson- B should be able to finish higher

AJ Acosta- F performed below his ability or expectations

Ben Dejarnette- F DNF no excuse or it better be a good one!

Brian Shrader- F DNF (see Above)

Seems like the plan destroyed the teams chances.

Thoughts?

13 years ago 11/23/2010 9:38pm EST

re: Terra no Hope

Vin only raced five guys.

He had his Stanford teams push the early going- generally seemed to work for them.

No way Danny is ever up with Centro.

A.J. probably overraced this season on a thin base.

13 years ago 11/23/2010 10:01pm EST

re: Rigid Digit

No they ran 7 here is a pic of Ben and of Shrader

http://www.letsrun.com/photos/2010/ncaaxcmen/imagepages/image76.php

http://www.letsrun.com/photos/2010/ncaaxcmen/imagepages/image37.php

Yes Danny may not belong there now, but as a senior with all that training, he should have been able to run much better than that.

13 years ago 11/23/2010 10:49pm EST

re: Terra no Hope

Yeah I just saw that- other threads were claiming only 5 guys B.S.

Danny could have run better, but no better than 25th-30th or so based on ability. They just don't have the depth at Nationals, period.

13 years ago 11/24/2010 3:44pm EST

re: Rigid Digit

Oregon's problem was lack of depth and having a squad with too many middle distance guys (Shrader, DeJarnette, Centro and A.J.) The three inexperienced freshmen (Shrader, Stinson and DeJarnette) all went out at a pace that was too fast for them on this day. As we have all seen (perhaps experienced ourselves), XC is not a forgiving race when oxygen debt sets in. I assume that A.J., primarily a miler, paid a heavy price for the early pace, and for trying to run two races within 8 days off a poor base (he started training very late due to his long track season ending in Europe this Summer). Basically, Oregon had three great seasons, and now the cycle begins again. We are fooling ourselves if we think that an Oregon program will be down for very long. They are the gold standard for collegiate competition.

13 years ago 11/24/2010 10:00pm EST

re: Word to the Retards

With that being said, then the tactic was all wrong.

Word to the Retards wrote:
Oregon's problem was lack of depth and having a squad with too many middle distance guys (Shrader, DeJarnette, Centro and A.J.) The three inexperienced freshmen (Shrader, Stinson and DeJarnette) all went out at a pace that was too fast for them on this day. As we have all seen (perhaps experienced ourselves), XC is not a forgiving race when oxygen debt sets in. I assume that A.J., primarily a miler, paid a heavy price for the early pace, and for trying to run two races within 8 days off a poor base (he started training very late due to his long track season ending in Europe this Summer). Basically, Oregon had three great seasons, and now the cycle begins again. We are fooling ourselves if we think that an Oregon program will be down for very long. They are the gold standard for collegiate competition.

13 years ago 11/25/2010 1:47am EST

re: Terra no Hope

By Oregon Plan, are you talking about the classic Oregon Hard-Easy method?

13 years ago 11/25/2010 2:19am EST

re: Duck Fan

Duck Fan wrote:
By Oregon Plan, are you talking about the classic Oregon Hard-Easy method?

What are you? 17?

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