The official give credit where it is due thread: NCAA XC D1 2010

Number 6 should be all of FSU's men.

Ranked #11, were shown no respect, but came up big when it counted for second.

Also congrats to Sambu.

Never even heard of you until recently but damn fine race.

Aggreed, who would ever thought FSU could beat Stanford, wow

and Luke equals BALLS!

....for twenty minutes (at 4k) I had to hear others call him idiot, not!

Kevin Schwab, Oklahoma - closed the last 2 kilometers faster than Colby Lowe, who outkicked him at Regionals. Outside the top 11 finishers, only Van Ingen of Binghamton (43rd) ran the last 2k faster than Schwab, who moved up 20 spots in that time.

Haile Soloman (sp) impressed with a 17th? place finish. Surprised no one has said anything about it yet. I'm not a fan of him, just didn't expect him in the top 50.

Pretty sure Haile was top 50 last year as a freshman as well, so this result is not that surprising.

jonathan peterson from uc davis in 14th!!

Aggies represent!

FSU FOR SURE

OSU'S 4TH AND ESPECIALLY 5TH MAN

Sisson (WI) was first frosh (by only 8 seconds), 14, ahead of Laura Hoer, 21, who had impressed me all season (21 is pretty good)

Note the biggest disappointment must be the Pac-10 (Oregon, Stanford men/women, Cal last, AZ women 11th), MacNeill, Krause (WI) -- both of these might be hurt, Krause was while running top 20 after 8km, but they still do not beat FSU, who should have gotten a lot more respect.

FSU men and Coach Bob Braman obviously deserve some credit for getting the job done, finishing runner up to Oklahoma State.

Oklahoma State repeating deserves credit, and they all return for a shot at 3 in a row.

Puskedra, what a great job he did today.

Florida State - Wow! Is there anyone out there who saw this coming?

Luke Puskedra - Great, gutsy run.

Jonathon Stublaski - He annihilated any expectation going into the race and ended any hope for OK State's competition

bobby e. wrote:

Kevin Schwab, Oklahoma - closed the last 2 kilometers faster than Colby Lowe, who outkicked him at Regionals. Outside the top 11 finishers, only Van Ingen of Binghamton (43rd) ran the last 2k faster than Schwab, who moved up 20 spots in that time.

Ok, what's your point? If Lowe would have stayed with Schwab until the last 2 kilometers, Lowe would have murdered him.

Nice work by the Smiths (Dave and Martin) and Florida State's Bob Braman. Dave Smith and Bob Braman have to manage the talents and expectations of athletes from a few different countries and that is tough to manage.

Martin Smith has been successful everywhere he's gone. People tend to forget that 28 years ago his UVA women won the NCAA title.

A little Centrowitz love.

Gina Procaccio, how about that double peat.

And huge, huge props to Karen Harvey for the FSU women getting 2nd again. In the last few years, FSU has definitely been the most consistent team and has always been near the top. Hope they get that title soon!

Let's also give credit to these UF women

Charlotte Browning 21st last year 105th this year

Rebecca Lowe 15th last year 148th this year

Extra Credit to Coach Morgan for that feat....

Credit to the Indiana men - nice solid race for the team. Also as mentioned, Fout has been appearing on threads as the biggest FL champ bust, maybe not so much anymore.

Also, anyone know what happened to Chenoworth from Harvard? He went through the 8k at 24:11 then was about 33mins at the finsih. I assume he must have gone down - man that must have been a long 2k.

Saw Chenoweth on the finishing stretch, he was doing the skeleton dance for most of the last 400. Tough to watch, but he was being applauded in.

Inexplicable collapse of this Florida Stater over the last few months. 67 seconds slower, or more than 11 seconds per km.

Pre Nats:

Amanda Winslow FloridaState 20:32.8 1

Nationals:

Amanda Winslow SO Florida State 10:22 21:39.8

youyouyou wrote:

bobby e. wrote:

Kevin Schwab, Oklahoma - closed the last 2 kilometers faster than Colby Lowe, who outkicked him at Regionals. Outside the top 11 finishers, only Van Ingen of Binghamton (43rd) ran the last 2k faster than Schwab, who moved up 20 spots in that time.

Ok, what's your point? If Lowe would have stayed with Schwab until the last 2 kilometers, Lowe would have murdered him.

The point is that he had a good race. He took it out so hard at Regionals, and essentially died and was reeled in, that a lot of people figured he'd be fried for Nationals. But he managed another good performance. I wasn't trying to talk up Schwab at Lowe's expense, just praise him individually, using a top-10 overall finisher (Lowe) as a point of comparison.