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Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/6/2009 6:42PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Jones has done well with Hartman and Torres! Will he be able to get Cabada (2:12) marathoner back on track?

I say he runs 44:15 this weekend. Predict his time...
What It Looks Like
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/6/2009 7:32PM - in reply to run for free Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
To me, it looks like Simmons was the only one who could manage Cabada's excesses and develop him in the right way.

It is really up to Cabada now. Jones ain't a magician. I'm sure Cabada knows how to train and how to limit his drinking.

It's all up to him now and I don't really so Reebok keeping him on the roster unless he does something.
really
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/6/2009 11:51PM - in reply to What It Looks Like Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
hey that is a quite harsh assessment to post. has his training being going well? you must know since you are posting his drinking habits on the this board.
Schenect-a-thon
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/7/2009 3:10AM - in reply to run for free Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I say 45:1X with a potential push from Jordan Davis. Ill let you know when I reach the finish line 10, 15 minutes later! The race has not seen this kind of talent in many years.
ftyhvbfdse
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/7/2009 4:22AM - in reply to run for free Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1. Cabada has been with Jonesy for 2 years. Why ask this question now?

2. Fernando, and his addictions, are just like a girl with an eating disorder. You will see some very good performances and then a crash, followed by long periods of nothing. Then the segment starts all over again.


This guy ran a 25 k american record, then ran some awful races and then disappeared. He then ran a very good 2:12 marathon and followed that up with a 2:35 in the WC and a dns in the Olympic Trials. He then disappeared and came back and won Twin Cities last year, he followed that up with a bunch of crappy races then pulled out of the WC in Berlin and has been MIA since.
On the right track.
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/7/2009 4:45AM - in reply to ftyhvbfdse Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cabada got injured in June and had to pull out of world champs. Injuries happen. The guy is doing well in his running career and has accomplished more then most elites in his career, he still is only 27. Sure he isn't a hall or ritz. Besides the top tier, who can say they have won 2 USA championships and has an American Record?
meaux
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/7/2009 6:17AM - in reply to What It Looks Like Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cabada has a lot of demons. Simmons was able to loosely point Cabada in the right direction, without giving him coach imposed restrictions to rebel against. Simmons is able to get into the heads of athletes and has a real good sense of what motivates them. Jones doesn't get into anyone's head - nothing wrong with that, just different skills.

A guy like Cabada is his own worst enemy. Most of you have no idea about the level of issues that someone like Cabada has, and how difficult it is to manage someone who cannot stop the behaviors that sabotage their own success and wreak havoc on the lives of those around them.
stockade-athon..
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/7/2009 8:05AM - in reply to meaux Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Didn't Jones get Cabada to win a USA marathon championship under him? I'd say he has got him on the right track.

46:15 for this weekend race for Cabada. First race back, not the best of shape I'd imagine.
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This is not Dr. Phil 11/7/2009 2:29PM - in reply to meaux Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
since you know him so well what has his training been like? is he training for another marathon or targeting shorter races?
i like to hear about his weekly mileage and some of his workouts not about his addictions or drinking...this is running forum not Dr. Phil
the real questiom
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/7/2009 4:56PM - in reply to meaux Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Quick to be negative? What times have you run Meaux? We thought so!
dkv
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/7/2009 6:50PM - in reply to the real questiom Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he will run at least 5 minute pace for the 9.3 miles thats for sure. I say he's gonna be aroune 44:15 - 45:30
meaux
RE: This is not Dr. Phil 11/8/2009 6:14AM - in reply to run for free Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
if your addictions have an impact on your work, then you have a problem. cabada has a problem. if you don't know this, then you are part of the problem.
Flounder
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/8/2009 6:24AM - in reply to the real questiom Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How fast was Bill Bowerman?
How fast was Joe Vigil?




the real questiom wrote:

Quick to be negative? What times have you run Meaux? We thought so!
Whiskey Bottle
RE: Will Jones turn Cabada around? 11/8/2009 8:04AM - in reply to run for free Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Who needs friends, family and success when you have me?
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What did Cabada run? Any results 11/8/2009 12:39PM - in reply to Whiskey Bottle Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What did Cabada run? Any results
TUGuy
RE: What did Cabada run? Any results 11/8/2009 12:44PM - in reply to run for free Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He ran 46:35, for a 15k. He won. The time however, IMO, is very unimpressive. I guess if it is his first race back then its ok, but he has really fallen off if this is indicative of what kind of shape he is in. Hopefully he just used this as a work out and will race faster. Good luck Bada!
who????????????????????
RE: What did Cabada run? Any results 11/8/2009 12:58PM - in reply to TUGuy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
who is Cabada?
vic runa
RE: What did Cabada run? Any results 11/8/2009 1:32PM - in reply to who???????????????????? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Some guy who pulled a knife on his old coach..oh and he has some worthless american record that nobody ever goes after
runnerryan
RE: What did Cabada run? Any results 11/8/2009 1:41PM - in reply to vic runa Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A wortheless records that equals 13:22 for 5k, 27:45 for 10, 1:01:46 for the half, or a 2:10:12 marathon? That doesn't sound particularly unimpressive to me.

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/cgi-bin/calculations.pl
Whoops!
RE: What did Cabada run? Any results 11/8/2009 1:46PM - in reply to runnerryan Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

runnerryan wrote:

A wortheless
"worthless"

records
"record"

that equals
"is considered by some to be the equivalent of"

13:22 for 5k, 27:45 for 10, 1:01:46 for the half, or a 2:10:12 marathon? That doesn't sound particularly unimpressive to me.

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/cgi-bin/calculations.pl
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