What happen to Donald Sage?

He's running for OTC and living in Oregon. He started running competitively again in 2008 after giving up the sport.

What happened to the last two letters of "happened"?

He ate shit and died!

Sage was the man in high school and did well at Stanford. One has to wonder if Newton burned him out a bit at York, or at least brought him to max potential too quickly.

No, Newton had nothing to do with his lack of progression. If anything, he should be on his knees thanking Newton for any success he had. I wish I was pushed harder in high school. We trained like little girls and by the time I decided to get serious it was too late, i mean i ran big pbs but i was still improving like crazy up until college graduation. But you just cant realize ten years of potential in three years. I;m tired of good coaches getting blamed for "burn out" while lackluster coaches that have kids improve are given a pat on the back when in reality they have nothing to do with it. If Rupp hit the wall like Sage we would all jump on board the Salazar burns people out wagon too. The only difference is that Rupp was able to the next level because he has some talent. Point being, if Sage were truly talented enough to run world class times he would have by now. Nothing against the guy. I'm just saying some people peak in high school because their coach gets the most out of them and they aren't any better than that. But its not due to coaching, it is due to the athletes lack of talent to take a step further in college.

calm down...he was joking...

You imply Sage has inferior talent to someone like Rupp? How old are you? Don't you remember Sage running 8:42 and 4:07 at his senior year state meet?

Sorry, you are an idiot. If all HS coaches thought like you and Newton, we would have nobody running past the age of 22 or 23 in this country, at least no one worth a damn.

He set us up the bomb!!!

calm down...people dont like those sort of jokes!...especially at Mr Newton expense!

I never understand why people take cheap shots at others like that?...Some people are Borned AH's!

Sage is NO LONGER running for OTC!

all your base wrote:

He set us up the bomb!!!

Hey Ding Dong, it's actually:

somebody set up us the bomb.

Don't get it twisted.

Have you bothered to read the article that interviewed Newton that was posted here last week? You have utterly no clue what you are talking about. Do some actual investigation before you demonstrate your ignorance.

And Sage hardly had a poor college career- a D1 national champ, ran the Oly qualifiers, was part of one of the great XC teams in college history, and then went on and actually got himself a real life, away from the haters. Good for him.

yeah, and the crazy thing is when he ran those races(4:07 and 8:42) he wasn't running them at pace. he was just hanging with whoever was in the front and waited until the last lap to run a sub-60 second last lap in both races. i believe he also ran around 1:50 on York's 4x800m team that year, and he was one of the slower guys. Crazy York.He also ran a 4:00.3 mile at the Prefontaine Classic in 2000. 4th fastest by a high school student ever(in America), but that was before Webb ran 3:53. So technically 5th fastest ever now i think.I believe Sage was also the PAC-10 1500m champ and made it to the finals as a true freshman. I had a theory his huge nose allowed him to inhale more oxygen than other runners. I was joking of course.I wonder what Sage could've run for 5000m after his 4:00 mile.

fsda wrote:

You imply Sage has inferior talent to someone like Rupp? How old are you? Don't you remember Sage running 8:42 and 4:07 at his senior year state meet?

greenliner wrote:

Have you bothered to read the article that interviewed Newton that was posted here last week? You have utterly no clue what you are talking about. Do some actual investigation before you demonstrate your ignorance.

And Sage hardly had a poor college career- a D1 national champ, ran the Oly qualifiers, was part of one of the great XC teams in college history, and then went on and actually got himself a real life, away from the haters. Good for him.

Yea, I read the article where he took credit for developing Marius Bakken, even though he was an exchange student and was only here one year.

Yup, he picked the brains of the top coaches in the world and used what they were using with Olympic and national caliber athletes on his HS kids. Brilliant, but he won so that justifies it.

I tailored it to this thread, to work with the subject line.

AYBABTU wrote:

all your base wrote:

He set us up the bomb!!!

Hey Ding Dong, it's actually:

somebody set up us the bomb.

Don't get it twisted.

I'll accept it if you switch the up and us. Otherwise you're getting a lot of red ink.

I don't think anyone really questions that Mr Newton is an amazing coach. What people are saying, however, is that it might have been too much for kids that young. For those who did run at York they had a wonderful coach and mentor I'm sure and really developed to their fullest potential.

One possibility is that yes Coach Newton did burn them out. It happens and it does not change the FACT that the boys at York won all kinds of titles and achieved tremendous success. A VERY respectable thing. Just because not all went on to succeed in college or professionally is not the end of the world. There is a lot of speculation that Jim Ryun ran the same way. His coach ran him so hard that he PRed very early on in his career and did not improve much later on. Jim Ryun is still a legend and no one is really going to argue that (but this is letsrun so someone is bound to).

A second possibility could be that the boys of York just went to run for the wrong program in college and the training that they had begun doing after HS just did not work for them. In such a case it would be the coach at the university they were at that should've adapted their style of running to the athlete. I don't know for sure how they trained at York but I do know that Newton learned a lot from a lot of great coaches and his boys ran lots of mileage, and perhaps ran in more of a lydiard style. Maybe going to a school like a Colorado instead of an Oregon (this is just an example) where Wetmore is more of a lydiard advocate and Lananna is more of a quality advocate (or Andy Powell who does a majority of coaching there).

All in all, Coach Newton is one of the greatest coaches to have ever lived and whether or not the athletes he coached were burnt out after high school it does not really matter because they still achieved so much success and won many titles and have such an experience that not many of us can say we have had the pleasure of knowing.

AYBABTU wrote:

I'll accept it if you switch the up and us. Otherwise you're getting a lot of red ink.

I deserve it for hazy memory.