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watching usatfs
Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 1:57PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Really? You're clearly the class of the field, let yourself get gapped by an absurd distance only to almost sprint by the entire field from lane 6 in the last 30m, but miss the team because you let the entire field gap you in the first 300m? Is it really that painful to go out in sub-61 when you can run 1:59?
viewer
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 2:02PM - in reply to watching usatfs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lets hope she gets the A and puts herself on the team. Not a wise racing plan.
Clowns of the Purple Sage
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 2:07PM - in reply to viewer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That was a bit much to give away, even by her standards. The first 200 or 300 looked like a jog for her.
stuEpid
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 2:08PM - in reply to viewer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just F'in STUPID racing!
777
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 2:35PM - in reply to stuEpid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It wasn't STUPID, per se. Just a miscalculation. if the leaders would have gone out in 58 or 57 (or faster), that would have been a brilliant strategy. However, since the race actually went out at an even pace, she was too far back to catch the leaders.
Dumber than Dumby
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 3:10PM - in reply to 777 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
They didn't, she did. I was Tactically DUMB
BS
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 3:17PM - in reply to 777 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A vital miscalculation. The leaders didn't and you have to be able change your race plan. The odd thing is that they actually went out faster then I thought they would with the windy back stretch. This set up her perferred race plan perfectly if she could have just hung on in 6th or 7th on the back stretch she would have been in perfect position.

You cannot be a one track pony and expect to have consistent success on the national level much less the world level. Ask Nick Symmonds - he has learned his lessons and has modified accordingly.

I hope she figures it out because she seems to have a load of potential.
mikejones999
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 3:18PM - in reply to Dumber than Dumby Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, no way she should have done that. I lost it when she came storming back...not because she closed so fast but because I couldn't believe she has stupid enough to let EVERYONE get that much room on her. Very stupid and bad for the US as she was clearly one of, if not that best in the field.
cheetah dude
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 3:21PM - in reply to mikejones999 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She was so far back that I thought she was injured.
no run 10k
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 3:52PM - in reply to viewer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Americans currently having the A:

1:59.29 Anna Willard
1:59.67 Alice Schmidt
1:59.82 Hazel Clark

Today's result:

2:00.79 Hazel Clark
2:01.01 Geena Gall
2:01.12 Phoebe Wright
2:01.19 Maggie Vessey

So, Clark goes, Gall goes. Wright goes IF she or Gall get the A. Vessey goes if SHE gets the A, and neither Gall nor Wright does.

Did I get that right?
apgsadf
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 4:17PM - in reply to no run 10k Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I understand trying to run more even splits than the field, and trying to draft off of them. I don't understand staying that far back when the pace is already so slow.
GENO1
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 4:54PM - in reply to watching usatfs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What is the A standard?
Retired Steepler
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 5:10PM - in reply to GENO1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A 2:00.00

B 2:01.30

Maggie Vessey's PR 2:00.18


So, Clark is in for sure. If one of Wright or Gall gets the A and Vessey gets the A, then she's in. Actually, no, that's wrong, because they both have the B. So if one of Wright or Gall gets the A, they both go. I say Vessey probably blew it.
TJ
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 5:45PM - in reply to Retired Steepler Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Don't be so sure. Could Gall and/or Wright break 2:00, especially after such long seasons? I'm not optimistic. Too bad Willard didn't run the 8 instead of the 15.
hetz dick
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 11:03PM - in reply to TJ Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Who is Maggie Vessey's coach?
yeah......
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 11:08PM - in reply to hetz dick Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She is self coached. Saw her run 53.xx in a local all comers meet around 2 weeks ago around the bay area.
good setup
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 11:14PM - in reply to yeah...... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

yeah...... wrote:
Saw her run 53.xx in a local all comers meet


When you saw her, did you...oh never mind.
Just some dude
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 11:20PM - in reply to yeah...... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

yeah...... wrote:

She is self coached. Saw her run 53.xx in a local all comers meet around 2 weeks ago around the bay area.


Greg Brock is coaching her last I heard.
Ruth Wysocki
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/28/2009 11:25PM - in reply to watching usatfs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Let's see - the "A" standard is 2:00.0. You aren't going to do that going out in 62.4-62.5. Doesn't matter what everyone else is doing - you need to run 2:00.0 or better. You've already run close to that, but you sit back 3 seconds off the lead of the best in the US for the first 400. Not a smart tactic. Can't sugar coat that one.
prewada
RE: Is Maggie Vessey Serious? 6/29/2009 12:13AM - in reply to Ruth Wysocki Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ruth thanks for posting She did have a bad day but at least she is clean and can sleep at night.
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