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Mohammed Ezzher ran 13:13 5000m on June 17th, 1995 at the ripe old age of 35, in Villeneuve d'Ascq France. He then ran 27:43.69 for 10000m at the same meeting the following year on May 25th, 1996...at the age of 36!!! He then ran 13:37.04 at the Helsinki games in 1997, at age 37. 27:50.58 at age 39. He ran 12:14 for the 4k at 2000 World Cross at the wrinkly age of 40. He then ran 13:43.15 for master's WR at of 40. He then ran a 2:10 marathon in Paris at the age of 41. Before we talk about drug usage, does anyone have any history of this guy pre-1995? Also, are there any training samples? I saw him run that 13:13 on video, I think he beat Khalid Skah in that race..and about 100 meters behind Haile Geb. |
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BUMP...Interesting. Wonder about his training? |
| benglois |
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Abdellah Behar (from Nice - perhaps Ghost knows something) is another french dude who ran 7.38 at the age of 35 (in '98). He ran 28.07 on the roads in 2001. |
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bump |
| scurry of eurotrash |
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bump. |
| scurry of eurotrash |
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Andres Espinosa ran 2.08.xx at 40! |
| ghost |
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Behar is from Marseille. Ezzer works and worked as a Municipal bus driver for Bordeaux city, even during his best years. After one year as a master, he retired. Dominique Chauvelier, the 1990 Euro marathon bronze medallist (2:11) is now 52 and still running very well in road race and cross country. Dominique recently finished 8th in French masters cross country in the over 40 category, because over 50's are ont competitive enough for him. A week later he ran the Euro vets half marathon in 1:08. He still runs 10km road races in the 30:40-31:30 range. I will post his training soon. Ghost in Korea, www.gifle.go.kr, apply now, c.moulton |
| scurry of eurotrash |
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I think Behar ran 30.00 at age 43? |
| silly old fossil |
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Ghost, who was the real good French vet (European not North African) who ran good on the US masters road circuit about 10 years ago? |
| Scurry of eurotrash |
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Any knowledge of their training? |
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Are you thinking of Pierre Levisse? |
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Ghost, We really need to get more info on Ezzer (training, lifestyle, motivations for running at a late age,etc..). I have never heard of a bus driver who moonlighted as an elite runner. This is a case of how great our sport is. Anyone can walk off the street and do well for themselves, provided they have the talent, dedication, and proper training regime. There is always the drug-use suspicion, but how in the world can a bus driver's salary afford EPO? This stuff doesn't come cheap. |
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Ezzer never doped. You people have to understand that North African runners have great talent for running, and the mental fortitude to do well in distance running. None of the Arab/French runners come from 'easy' backgrounds. All of them either came from North African poverty, or live in the projects in France, in huge tower blocks, where poverty, crime and discrimination from mainstream France are ever present. When the North African runners in France find something they are good at, the motivation is double, because they can validate who they are, and get social recognition from FFA and clubs which offer small salaries and sometimes jobs and reduced housing costs. Also, they often obtain 'fast track' French Nationality, which is a huge boost, especially in the present day Sarkozy government. In short - they have the hunger and desire to do well, which most ordinary French do not possess. Ghost in Korea, www.gifle.go.kr, apply now, c.moulton |
| scurry of eurotrash |
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Details on training! |
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Ezzer, like all/most North African French runners was not high mileage, but most of his km's were run at fastish speeds. 10,000 and Marathon training Monday - 45-60 minutes with last 20 minutes at 3:20 per km Tuesday - a.m. 40 minutes, p.m. 20 mins jog, 8 times 1000 starting at 3:05 and working down to 2:50, rest of 60-90 secs between intervals, jog 20 minutes. During track season, the rest between intervals goes down. Wednesday - 90 minute run, with last 30 minutes at between 3:20-3:30 per km Thursday - a.m. 40 minutes steady at 3:45-4:00 pace p.m. 20 minutes jog, 12 times 400 in average of 66 seconds per 400, jog 200m in 40-45 secs 20 minute jog Friday - 60 minutes with last 20 minutes at 3:20 per km Saturday - Hill session, total of 60-90 minutes Sunday - Fartlek in nature 80 minutes As you can see, Ezzer does not do many km's and he only doubles on two days a week, but he does not hang around in training. To my knowledge, he did not run more than 90 minutes before his 2:10 marathon. No need to for long runs, in his training system. Note - during Ramadan and other Islam festivals, Ezzer trained very lightly or not at all. He is a devout Muslim, and does everyting to honor the great Allah - Mashallah, Hamdullilah. Ghost in Korea, www.gifle.go.kr, apply now, c.moulton |
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We all know that a North African would NEVER cheat. |
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Could it be that Ezzer didn't do high mileage (or do many doubles) and "not hang around in training" because he had a regular job,family,and was busy otherwise? This reminds me of when Khalid Khannouchi would wash dishes as a regular job and then run late at night in NYC for training. Motivation seems to always be the overlooked factor in a person's running success. |
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Tx. A lot of high-end aerobic running and nothing faster than 5000m race pace. |
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And approx. 140km/week (guestimate) |
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Ghost you are such a liar. You know more than anyone on this board that french arabs from the 90s were for the most as dirty as f#ck... EPO was not even tested at the time & was commonly used for years. In the last year only, the following french arabs have been caught for either EPO or HGH: Bouchra Ghezielle Hind Dehiba Latifa Essarock Norredine Gezzar Khalid Zoubaa Aïssa Dghoughi The later when caught gave a full list of other french athletes on the juice...this is still under investigation; You hypocritical arguments make me think of that guy Fouad Chouki who got caught in 2003 for EPO after running 3'30. He denied everything, arguing he was a good Muslim & sued the french Federation for diffamation, case that he obviously lost. He then got caught some months later for a gambling scam & theft and again later for attempted rape on a 15 year old. The guy also drove a car without a licence & the list goes on... but in defense was always saying he was a good Muslim as an argument for innocence. He was very talented (7.48 3k as a junior), but talent has no influence on the choice of getting on the juice. Heard Behar's own brother say EPO was the norm in French arab cercles in the 90s. It was actually those not taking it that were getting abused/laughed at by the rest. You admitted yourself in another thread that loads of French morrocons/algerians were juiced & that you knew some. The fact that they come from poor backgrounds doesnt prevent them for cheating, it acctually IS a reason why they cheat. They dont run because they love the sport like the rest of us, they do it to get money & fame. As you said they are ready to everything to get out of slums, cheating included. Ghost, your constant defense of cheats & hidding thr truth makes me think you are a very dishonest man. Nicely, |
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