HRM Training = 16-minute Marathon PR

Oops. The angle brackets seemed to hide the URL to the blog.

Link to John Hill's blog is

http://www.kayry-john.blogspot.com

I don't think i could put down that many ultra fuel's so close to the event more power to him..

he did say he did speedwork in the past and followed a pfitz plan..just not between NYC and Houston..so he had a good base and did a lot of MP/Tempo work which appears to matter the most ...

good read

I can't believe the readers here. This is one of the most impressive achievements i've seen in running and nobody is posting comments here!?

I think it's also awesome, but come on - one of the most impressive achievements in running? When did you start running, yesterday?

It's certainly impressive for a non-professional, especially as far as the rate of improvement goes.

I wonder if he can get it down to sub 2:30?

I thought this chart he did tells the story quite well:

http://bp3.blogger.com/_rkq1AqZWp5o/R4AkKiqHWZI/AAAAAAAAACk/nzW-HVa4o3k/s1600-h/Marathon+Pace+Improvement+2007.jpg

Yes it is very impressive. He obviously found something

that worked for him.

"one of the most impressive achievements I've seen in running"

Wow - now that is something to be said - Thanks.

It is impressive. He didn't really avoid speed work. He substituted tempo runs which for the marathon is very effective.

I went from 27:01 for 5 miles to 25:55 the next year and did little or no speed work outside of races. But I did run more miles per week. The year after that I ran 25:45.

Improvement is running is rarely linear. He may or may not hit 2:30. The next ten minutes will be tougher but given his background, he might do it. I would like to see his other race times come down and also an increase in his weekly miles.

That's interesting -- when I'm trying to get in shape, I usually figure on a 1sec/mile/week improvement as well. This is based on tempo runs -- after a few weeks of training, I might really hammer and run 6:10 pace for 4 miles, 10 weeks later I'll run 6:00's if the conditions are the same (and my effort, how my legs feel, and so on). I wonder if this is a general trend? I guess there must be a limit somewhere, but it works pretty well for me from ~6:30's to ~5:30's.

You know what I thought was incredible? I truly saw a guy wearing a fanny pack in the 5k. Life imitates comedy?

Thats one of the most incredible things I've seen in running.

Oh, crap! JOHN! I forgot about John. Seriously, guys. I worked out with him for a while last year. SUPER attitude! SUPER guy. John kept raving about the heart monitor! He was hyper analytical about the thing and he had the results to back him up! I swear I am telling the truth.

John, excuse me. My post above was not in any way making light of your efforts. All my respect, sir. But because I was telling the (TRUE) fanny pack story, and I haven't seen you in about 8 months, I'll never tell you who I am when I see you. But go for 2:30, brother. Best wishes.

Could only be Wayne - :). Haven't seen you in a while - but I still get your emails so I know where your working out.