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No worries, eddy!
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/24/2009 4:23PM - in reply to eddylee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
eddylee wrote:

Thanks for the advice :)

I ran 406xx (will post official results when posted).
baby pr

64,210(66),315(65),406(51 ouch)

I need to finish my races. I know I can go faster the last 200meters, but the problem is just fighting through the pain and fatigue.

One step closer.


No worries, man. My theory on training is this: The first 2/3 of your perfect race rely entirely on your aerobic base. the next 1/6 or so is your anaerobic training...and that last 1/6 doesn't fall into place until you've raced several times and done some sharpening work. You're really close, and I'm sure by the end of the season your last lap will be your fastest by far!
boingo
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/24/2009 11:20PM - in reply to Leila Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think it's safe to say that anyone who wants to seriously join this thread is welcome to do so. If you just post a week of workouts and vanish, though, the people who have been posting here will probably ignore you.

Beer steak - you sound pretty damn close to the coveted sub 4. i might have the opportunity to beat you to it - i'm probably going to race the 1500 easter weekend. (maybe the 8 - haven't decided yet...competition's better in the 8)

good luck to everyone racing! eddylee and ron specifically, but it's getting a little hard to keep track.

best of luck with the pf, sair. it's a hard thing to deal with - i found just being really disciplined about always wearing the right shoes helped tremendously.

past two workouts:

8 sets of 3 min on, 2 min off - starting at 10k pace, going down to 5k. pretty tough.
3 sets of 3x300, 60 rest, 4 between sets
descending 3k, mile, 8 pace
started out at 51-52, then 47-48, then 44-45
everything was fairly easy except the 44-45s. the last one was a bit of a struggle.
mileage mid 50 to low 60. if i keep it on the side of 60 i think i'll be okay - i'm aiming for increasing it in the long term but with the track season well underway i don't think it would be wise to do so (in a big way) now.
Radical Ron
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/25/2009 2:40PM - in reply to boingo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
To all EddyLee thread followers and devotees who are racing this weekend... Good Luck and Run like the WIND!!! Looking forward to reading about new PRs!
trackshark
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/26/2009 7:03PM - in reply to Radical Ron Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
eddy, respect to you in your quest.

For sub-4, use a different strategy than running for place.

DO NOT WAIT FOR THE TOP CURVE! Go early, and GO HARD, at 300, or around the BOTTOM CURVE, just after the bell, and hit it hard. You will tie up, but you'll be maxed out.
Solo Joe
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/26/2009 7:25PM - in reply to trackshark Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
dang eddy, you've made huge strides since last time i was on here. boingo, as always your workouts make me think you are ready to dip under 4.

i was really sick for 2 weeks and am trying to claw my way back. earlier this week i was supposed to do 4x1000m in 2:43 with 3 min rest, which turned into 2:45, 2:50, 2:55 and then getting cut off. today was better. 2x6x400m with 90s between reps and 3 min between sets. 66 the first set with a few 65s, 65s the second set with a few 64s at the end. if i run the 1500m next weekend, i'll be shooting for about 4:05. if i can do that and stay healthy i know i'll be able to shave off the 6 seconds.
the clueless one
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/26/2009 9:23PM - in reply to Leila Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Always room for one more!

Leila wrote:

Is it too late to join in on this thread? I have been following the thread since June, and I've always wanted to join in...
former hoo
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/26/2009 10:13PM - in reply to eddylee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't know if this has been suggested, but when you're trying to get through a barrier-you don't want to be "fighting" it. It sounds like you need to do some short, quick stuff so that you can practice running fast while relaxed. Not running fast while tired, but while relaxed. Like one day a week (do a morning run and then in the PM do a quick warmup and drills before this light workout)-do some flying 50s = 100m strides with the first 50 at a relaxed stride pace with a quick change of gears at the 50m mark. But it must be relaxed. This will also help you learn to change gears in a race, which is important for that final surge over the last 100m. Other similar workouts are "workup" 200s. A 200 at 1500m pace; a 200 with the first 150 at 1500m pace with a 50m burst (say 6.5 seconds); a 200 with the first 100m at 1500m pace with a 100m burst (say 13-14 seconds); a 200 with the first 50m at 1500m pace with a 50m burst (19.5-20 seconds); a 200m at 26-27 seconds. But stay RELAXED!
LetsBlab
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/26/2009 10:57PM - in reply to former hoo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Keep on keepin' on Eddy. Personally I will return to this thread in maybe the Fall. I have no doubt as to your sub-4 potential but if you're only at 4:07 now on the training you've been doing it won't be this year......
Jacobe Hoope
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/27/2009 9:02PM - in reply to LetsBlab Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Is it too late for me to jump into the fray guys? Backslaps for all involved. LOL! Rock on you guys and here's a time a ran for some split times 55, 88, 47, 32, 42, 234, 34, 54, 44. How bout that? Hey, good job fellas and get back to do do doing what you can can can with a little bit of elbow grease and a fat old can of way back wisdom, later on guys.
another dude
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/27/2009 9:09PM - in reply to Solo Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Solo Joe wrote:
earlier this week i was supposed to do 4x1000m in 2:43 with 3 min rest, which turned into 2:45, 2:50, 2:55 and then getting cut off. today was better. 2x6x400m with 90s between reps and 3 min between sets. 66 the first set with a few 65s, 65s the second set with a few 64s at the end. if i run the 1500m next weekend, i'll be shooting for about 4:05. if i can do that and stay healthy i know i'll be able to shave off the 6 seconds.

2:43 1000's? Jesus. Who schedules 1000's at 1500 race pace?
Solo Joe
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/27/2009 9:34PM - in reply to another dude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
another dude wrote:

[quote]Solo Joe wrote:
earlier this week i was supposed to do 4x1000m in 2:43 with 3 min rest, which turned into 2:45, 2:50, 2:55 and then getting cut off. today was better. 2x6x400m with 90s between reps and 3 min between sets. 66 the first set with a few 65s, 65s the second set with a few 64s at the end. if i run the 1500m next weekend, i'll be shooting for about 4:05. if i can do that and stay healthy i know i'll be able to shave off the 6 seconds.

2:43 1000's? Jesus. Who schedules 1000's at 1500 race pace?[/quote]

yeah....my coach gives us all the same time goals for workouts, and there are some really fast guys in our mid distance group.

the worst part was that it wasn't even even pace, we were supposed to come through 600m in 1:38, "float" a 20 second 100m, and then hammer home in 45 for 300m. sufficed to say it was a workout over my head, especially coming back from being sick.
Calveskillingme
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/27/2009 10:05PM - in reply to Solo Joe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He should watch this: http://www.flotrack.org/videos/speaker/38-jack-daniels/155007-tt-do-coaches-understand

Good luck to everyove in their quest for the elusive sub 4
Nogad
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/27/2009 10:51PM - in reply to LetsBlab Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
LetsBlab wrote:

Keep on keepin' on Eddy. Personally I will return to this thread in maybe the Fall. I have no doubt as to your sub-4 potential but if you're only at 4:07 now on the training you've been doing it won't be this year......


In the first post EL indicates 4:16 in '07. 4:07 now. Thats really slow progress for someone his age. For 1500 another couple of years and improvement stops. Either somethings wrong or he's getting close to peak ability. I predict failure.
interested pete
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/29/2009 12:03PM - in reply to Nogad Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
EDDY LEE UPDATE PLEASE
what did he run this weekend?

(Note: This is not an excuse for jokers like jonesey, solo bair, and radical pogo to start posting their workouts. I just want to know the scoop on Eddy Lee. Thanks.)
LukeTheRunner
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/29/2009 12:42PM - in reply to interested pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He's running today; results will be here: http://www.clerkofthecourse.com/ucla/cal-nevada/
thened
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/29/2009 1:22PM - in reply to LukeTheRunner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
EDDYLEE HAS DONE IT!! FINALLY BROKE 4 MINUTES FOR THE 1500!!! 3:59.94!!!! CONGRATULATIONS EDDYLEE!!! YOU'RE A BEAST!!!!
not on my watch
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/29/2009 1:44PM - in reply to thened Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
thened wrote:

EDDYLEE HAS DONE IT!! FINALLY BROKE 4 MINUTES FOR THE 1500!!! 3:59.94!!!! CONGRATULATIONS EDDYLEE!!! YOU'RE A BEAST!!!!


Screw you. He'll do it when he does it. Your all caps and exclamation points don't change reality. I don't know why you Americans put so much pressure on poor little Eddy Lee.
Sorry
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/29/2009 5:53PM - in reply to not on my watch Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sorry to see but going backwards.

13 Eddie Lee JR CSU Bakersfield 4:09.96
Radical Ron
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/30/2009 12:20AM - in reply to Sorry Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Don't sweat it Eddy. Lots of season left. You're on target. You're still moving in the right direction.

Nasty winter weather came through KC the last two days. Mizzou relays cancelled the second day. Most KC teams bagged the meet included KC Smoke. Rather live to run another day.

Hey Pete... Stick it! Jack off!
yea Im that guy mhm
RE: My goal of sub 4:00 1500-I will not stop until I reach my goal. 3/30/2009 2:27AM - in reply to Radical Ron Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
best thread evar
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