Alex Vero ('The Road To Beijing' guy) UPDATE

and he learning the hard way

he is clearly capable of being a good club runner - perhaps even getting down to 2.30 if he thinks long term but 2.15 is total pie in the sky

Poor, poor, coaching...

what has he done to show he is capable of getting down to 2:30??he ran 3:10, isn't that what some posted -i ran sub 3 and i can tell you i'm nowhere near being a 2:30 runnernow that all of the stupidity is over can we call alex what he isa 3:10 marathoner, no more, no lessthe statement he made about gutting out the last six miles was absolutely ridiculous... as if all marathoners don't try to gut out the last six miles... what would possibly make him think he is specialdoes anyone have his splits?

Ye Olde Timer wrote:

and he learning the hard way

he is clearly capable of being a good club runner - perhaps even getting down to 2.30 if he thinks long term but 2.15 is total pie in the sky

sorry didn't see someone posted a half split of 1:22so did he start at a 2:36 pace and already by the half mark or did he set out with a more realistic time in mind

anEconomist wrote:

what has he done to show he is capable of getting down to 2:30??

he ran 3:10, isn't that what some posted -

i ran sub 3 and i can tell you i'm nowhere near being a 2:30 runner

now that all of the stupidity is over can we call alex what he is

a 3:10 marathoner, no more, no less

the statement he made about gutting out the last six miles was absolutely ridiculous... as if all marathoners don't try to gut out the last six miles... what would possibly make him think he is special

does anyone have his splits?

Ye Olde Timer wrote:

and he learning the hard way

he is clearly capable of being a good club runner - perhaps even getting down to 2.30 if he thinks long term but 2.15 is total pie in the sky

This is the first time I've ever been moved to contribute to a forum. Personally I'd rather be out having a run or bike ride. Alex Vero did his best today in VERY hot conditions in Paris...not conditions that most of ever likely to run a PB in. Alex is following a dream and yeah, he may never get there. But he's giving it the best shot he's got and I appreciate most of you are more qualified than myself as my PBs were only 13.46 for 5K, 29.04 for 10K, 48.15 for 10 miles, 64.30 for half marathon and a mere 2.17.08 for the marathon. But I started as a slob abut I had was belief and a dream. Who knows if he can make it happen. But I've seen people who have and whilst I'm sure his goal gives you hours of amusement for God's sake let's get off his back and support his dream. I applaud his dream.... and perhaps there are a few of us who need to look what we settle for and perhaps one or two need to look at how good they think they are. If all this energy that's being devoted to this debate about Alex Vero was actually put into making UK Endurance Running better, then maybe, just maybe, there'd be a lot more sub 2.20 marathon runners.

You've got some fine PBs and I remember your name from back in the day. However:

1) Almost nobody who posts here is a "UK Endurance Runner"

2) He gets the attention, both good and bad, because he's solicited it through his self-promotion

3) It's great to have a dream but putting up a self-promoting website about it isn't the secret to realizing that dream, he should be able to do it without seeking any publicity

4) The energy put into this debate isn't what's keeping the UK from having more sub2:20 marathoners. There are many other reasons why UK Endurance Running sucks, the energy spent on this debate isn't one of them.

Keith - i'm amazed that you were moved to reply to something which I considered to be pretty tame. There's a lot worse on this board. Alex's goal has certainly not given me hours of amusement - more like minutes of mild interest. I think he has done very well so far but has set his goals too high. Bt we shall see...

also you say I appreciate most of you are more qualified than myself as my PBs were only 13.46 for 5K, 29.04 for 10K, 48.15 for 10 miles, 64.30 for half marathon and a mere 2.17.08 for the marathon - is this particularly constructive? the logical extenstion of that argument is that your views as not as worthy of someone with PBs of 13.20/27.40 etc - which is plainly not the case. The whole my PBS are better than yours thing does not become you.

chill

Hi Keith, just been reading your website did you really not start running or any other activity until 30? have you got a book available?

I didn't post my PBs with the intention of saying that I was better or worse than any other runner. The point I was making was that I was a 30 year-old smoking slob who got into running to loose weight but loved it, followed a dream, and ended up running in the Commonwealth Games Marathon. People have gone from jogger to elite.... look at Paul Evans, Steve Brace, etc.... Yes, it took them years. And, lots of hard work. Lots of disappointment. Lots of getting it wrong. But don't give the guy a hard time for having a dream, being public and yeah.... trying to make it commercial. Perhaps that's the real problem? Anyway, I'm off for a run.....

Yeah, and you're a Brit who bungles English as well as any Yank does, including the current US President.

P.S. Look at Pris Welch

i have no problem with what alex is doing - i just don't think he's going to make it.

peace

The Stragglers - No More Veros

Whatever happened to Leon Schotski?

He got an nice stitch

That made his heart burn

Whatever happened to dear old Lemmy?

The great Aloe Vera, and Abu Hamza?

Whatever happened to the heroes?

Whatever happened to the heroes?

Whatever happened to all the heroes?

All the oh so neros?

They watched him in Paris burn

Whatever happened to the heroes?

Whatever happened to the heroes?

No more Veros any more

No more Veros any more

LOSE weight wrote:

Yeah, and you're a Brit who bungles English as well as any Yank does, including the current US President.

P.S. Look at Pris Welch

If your American you do not have the born rights to criticise the English language..go cook some muffins and increase your obesity problem........

Oh dear,

Look - the colonial showed you how to spell "you're".

If you are (or "you're", if you prefer) going to make a witty point about our great language, please get it right!

Thanks

Keith Anderson wrote:

I didn't post my PBs with the intention of saying that I was better or worse than any other runner. The point I was making was that I was a 30 year-old smoking slob who got into running to loose weight but loved it, followed a dream, and ended up running in the Commonwealth Games Marathon. People have gone from jogger to elite.... look at Paul Evans, Steve Brace, etc.... Yes, it took them years. And, lots of hard work. Lots of disappointment. Lots of getting it wrong. But don't give the guy a hard time for having a dream, being public and yeah.... trying to make it commercial. Perhaps that's the real problem? Anyway, I'm off for a run.....

Keith Anderson, you have some nerve, buster! How is this guy Vero any different than the 439lb Boston marathoner. Sure they are gonna get attention if they publicize FIRST. They both act like this marathon nonsense is a stroll in the park. You sound like some paid lackey of this Vero character....well, are you?

I dont think Keith has to explain himself to you rodent, he has already given his reasoning in that he himself achieved what Vero has set out to do

obesity is on it's way over on your precious island you filthy brit. enjoy.

oh yeah, how'd that world cup turn out for you all last year? I remember you dirty c***s invading this board about it. haha.

young-runner wrote:

I dont think Keith has to explain himself to you rodent, he has already given his reasoning in that he himself achieved what Vero has set out to do

Did he do it in a similar fashion? Saying that you are going to make the British Oly team and run 2:15 also is pretty...well...ballsy.

And if this Anderson guy is aligning himself with this running joke there must be some payoff for him.

If Vero is being maligned then Anderson should be as well.

Anyone who had Vero's best interests at heart would tell him to shut the hell up until AFTER he has made the Oly team. Just say Vero called up The Sun or News of the World and told the sports editor that he needed financial support to make Wolverhampton Wanderers senior squad; he would be ridiculed, or worse, by every soccer hooligan in the Midlands. Yes????

Keith back up squad wrote:

If your American you

you're