Running and testosterone level

im having similar problems...any advice would help

I believe there is documentation that heavy endurance training, basically what you're doing now, is correlated to lower testosterone and higher estrogen levels. I'm not sure they ever linked the actual region (maybe to make the heart less stressed or burn less energy), but either way, it does exist. Heavy training, without proper rest, no matter what the training, will lead to decreased sex drive anyway.

First order is to make sure you are getting rest, eating fats, which are usually not present in runner's diets (fish oil, walnuts, almonds, pecans, saturated fats (beef)).

If neither of these work, then yes, get the free and bound testosterone test and get your estradiol levels checked as well (you might have a test:estrogen imbalance). Normal ranges, for males of test are usually 300 to 1200 ng/dl. A lot of doctors will say 300-400 is fine, but this is very very low for normal and should not be acceptable for men who want to have a sex drive.

If you don't feel like going to the doc to take the test and just want to try a supplement or drink, there are a couple suggestions. I would try, in this order:

Tribulus Terrestis. I have tried this before (Tribex and Tribex Gold) and can attest that I have recovered faster during workouts and needed a little less sleep, probably because of increased T levels. Make sure you get Bulgarian tribulus. I remembered hearing that's the effective one.

Myogenx, an herbal supplement that has been shown to increase testosterone by 200%. Guys coming off cycles have tried it and it works just as well as some of the 'script stuff. Pretty new, but worth a shot and formulated by a guy that knows a lot about increasing T levels (Anthony Roberts).

VPX Black Pearl. I've heard people make mention of this saying it's the real deal. Never tried it, but enough positive feedback allows me to trust it.

All of these are legal. If you're getting tested by an organization for test levels, you might have a false positive if you're already too high.

Hopefully this helps

Just how common is this? I experience this too, and, as scientologist notes, it does seem to be directly correlated to running as the periods when I'm injured I see a massive resurgence in my sex drive.

Thank you Scientologist. But I do have a question? Will taking these supplements somehow affect my running? Will my aerobic gains go down or something? I'm really a marathoner, so maybe that changes situations. Will be running 100+ mpw in month or so.

That's my question: Can you address the testestorone issue without affecting your running? How does Brian Sell do it?

Or to put in other words, lets assume that the best possible time I can run for a marathon is 2:15 if I train properly to use up all of my genetic ability. Will taking testosterone supplements bring the roof down to 2:20, 2:25, or something lower? How much?

it does seem to be directly correlated to running as the periods when I'm injured I see a massive resurgence in my sex drive.

No kidding. Last fall during my pre-marathon taper and post-marathon rest, it was like someone turned the clock back a decade or two.

Zinc and Magnesium or buy ZMA - basically the same thing but with vitamin b-6

2x RDA of each 30 min before bed.

I note a distinct correlation between Zinc and Mag at bedtime and "morning stiffness".

Also Zinc can help your immune system, many of the "reduce the length of the cold or flu" preparations contain a hefty dose of zinc. Many endurance athletes live with the ever persistent cold or are the first to catch something and last to get rid of it.

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Or to put in other words, lets assume that the best possible time I can run for a marathon is 2:15 if I train properly to use up all of my genetic ability. Will taking testosterone supplements bring the roof down to 2:20, 2:25, or something lower? How much?

Shouldn't higher testosterone contribute to improved performance? Why would you think raising your testosterone would slow down your marathon?

Depleted, testosterone should not hurt your performances at all. The increased T would actually help with your recovery and you might notice an increase in level of training.

To the other posters, I believe the correlation of T levels and endurance training to be quite prevalent as I've read on a couple different forum boards.

Additionally, I forgot about ZMA. That, too, is a wonderful supplement and something I have noticed increased recovery and increased training levels. Cheap too, only 10 bucks for one month supply.

It has nothing to do with testosterone depletion or running. It has everything to do with getting older and getting used to having the same chick around.

You could run 100+ miles per week, but if you started dating a different 19 year-old hottie, you'd be banging her 2-3 times a week, just like before.

Happens at 25, and it happens at 40. Trust me, us old guys know.

I think this happens to a lot of runners. We used to have a joke on our college team that as soon as you stopped running competitively you went through your second puberty.

I read an article yesterday linking testostrone suppliments to low fertility in men.

`Avoid anything that has testosterone,'' urologist David Nudell says. ``I have seen family practice and holistic doctors who treat men with testosterone for energy problems.'' Anabolic steroids are also bad for sperm."

http://www.insidebayarea.com/bayarealiving/ci_5306840

Thoughts?

Testosterone is one of the main reasons that the men's record is 2:04 instead of 2:15.

Johann Gambleputty wrote:

Shouldn't higher testosterone contribute to improved performance? Why would you think raising your testosterone would slow down your marathon?

Birds of a feather wrote:

I think this happens to a lot of runners. We used to have a joke on our college team that as soon as you stopped running competitively you went through your second puberty.

I read an article yesterday linking testostrone suppliments to low fertility in men.

`Avoid anything that has testosterone,'' urologist David Nudell says. ``I have seen family practice and holistic doctors who treat men with testosterone for energy problems.'' Anabolic steroids are also bad for sperm."

http://www.insidebayarea.com/bayarealiving/ci_5306840

Thoughts?

No supplement actually contains "testosterone." Basically all the supplements out on the market contain herbs that increase LH, which is the precursor for test in the Leydig cells.

He is correct in saying anabolic steroids are bad for sperm if used incorrectly. During times of taking exogenous T, your body goes into a shutdown phase (supplying T means your body doesn't need to make it), hence the need for a proper recovery protocol.

The linkage of low fertility to men should be linked to a terrible diet and lack of sleep. There are also chemicals used that have been shown to increase estrogen levels in men (xenoestrogens and phytoestrogens mainly).

My two cents, take it for what it's worth.

No supplement actually contains "testosterone." Basically all the supplements out on the market contain herbs that increase LH, which is the precursor for test in the Leydig cells.

He is correct in saying anabolic steroids are bad for sperm if used incorrectly. During times of taking exogenous T, your body goes into a shutdown phase (supplying T means your body doesn't need to make it), hence the need for a proper recovery protocol.

The linkage of low fertility to men should be linked to a terrible diet and lack of sleep. There are also chemicals used that have been shown to increase estrogen levels in men (xenoestrogens and phytoestrogens mainly).

My two cents, take it for what it's worth.[/quote]

What if you have low testosterone and are taking a prescription supplement like androgel?

troneee wrote:

What if you have low testosterone and are taking a prescription supplement like androgel?

You're supplying your body with exogenous testosterone, therefore, it should have the same type of effect. If you were to stop, your levels would drop below baseline and your body would have to recover to around (slightly below/above) baseline. In regards to sterility, this could potentially have the same effect.

The fact that androgel (5 to 10 mg) provides less testosterone than users who take 150 mg shots every other day leads me to believe that you're not compromising your sperm production as much and might not lead to temporary infertility. Anyway, if you become infertile while taking androgel, your body has a chance to "rebound" so to speak, just like it does with the T levels.

Caveat: Usually when people stop taking their exogenous testosterone, without any support to rebound the levels, they are below baseline and do not recover completely.

Thanks alot scientolgist you are smart,

What about mastubation SP' can it affect your perfomance if you are a sub 240 marathon

infertility problems in future???

Thanks

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Thanks alot scientolgist you are smart,

What about mastubation SP' can it affect your perfomance if you are a sub 240 marathon

infertility problems in future???

Thanks

I would say excessive cases would cause a problem in that you would experience frequently high levels of prolactin, which, in turn, can be accompanied by decreasing levels of testosterone.

However, an absence could cause more problems than lower testosterone.

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