A group of schoolboys can never be as stupid as the President of the United States.
A group of schoolboys can never be as stupid as the President of the United States.
Do people not even hear themselves? Kids skip school, kids flunk out of school, kids get pregnant, kids get in fights, kids steal cars, kids rob stores, kids shoot people. Jesse Jackson shows up with a mob when those kids get trouble. People scream that the kids are just kids. Now the kids are doing something healthy and the Nazis are out to take them to the gas chamber.
flu away wrote:
Do people not even hear themselves? Kids skip school, kids flunk out of school, kids get pregnant, kids get in fights, kids steal cars, kids rob stores, kids shoot people. Jesse Jackson shows up with a mob when those kids get trouble. People scream that the kids are just kids. Now the kids are doing something healthy and the Nazis are out to take them to the gas chamber.
No, they aren't. You don't know much about the Holocaust, do you?
This is only relevant if we know the state. Indiana?
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
Umm we are talking about kids who are irresponsibly gathering unnecessarily and putting others at risk. What if the State they are located in has the 10 person or less group gathering ordinance? Again, if none are ill and they don't touch each other or anyone else, don't cough or spit on each other or anyone else, don't share water bottles, HOW are they putting others at risk?
Why the heck would you assume they make smart decisions else where? Because kids that get together to do a "long run" are dedicated and probably good students who will attend college and do not want to get themselves or their families sick from this virus. I prefer think many of our youth, especially dedicated distance runners that I have known are great kids.
Odds are they are as big of idiots during the rest of the day.
That may be the case and that is why I wonder why running with their friends is any different than hanging with their friends playing video games, or shopping at Walmart?
And I think not infecting people you live with when you are sick is incredibly hard. Why do you feel that way? Do you think ALL people who are testing positive for the Corona Virus are spending two weeks in a hospital completely quarantined with with zero human interaction?
There is a reason why when one person gets sick, others tend to follow. And it isn't because the sick person is trying to infect the people they live with. Okay, so what is that reason?
My replies and inquires are above in bold.
I have studied it extensively because I had dozens of family members who were murdered there. The Nazis started a systematic brainwashing of the entire population by essentially convincing people that Jews were bad through propaganda and laws. In one month's time, we established laws that required people to stay inside. We fined and arrested people who do not comply. The media bombards people 24x7 that anyone who is not complying is bad. This very thread is scary in that a group of high school boys are being called out as bad for what should be positive behavior. The Government and the media have convinced everyone that the enemy is the population who are violating the shelter in place orders. Those people are quickly being viewed as the enemy.
OP, was this in jasper indiana by chance cause i saw what looked like about 8 guys the same you described and i was about to do the same thing haha
Help me to understand wrote:
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
Umm we are talking about kids who are irresponsibly gathering unnecessarily and putting others at risk. What if the State they are located in has the 10 person or less group gathering ordinance? Again, if none are ill and they don't touch each other or anyone else, don't cough or spit on each other or anyone else, don't share water bottles, HOW are they putting others at risk?
Why the heck would you assume they make smart decisions else where? Because kids that get together to do a "long run" are dedicated and probably good students who will attend college and do not want to get themselves or their families sick from this virus. I prefer think many of our youth, especially dedicated distance runners that I have known are great kids.
Odds are they are as big of idiots during the rest of the day.
That may be the case and that is why I wonder why running with their friends is any different than hanging with their friends playing video games, or shopping at Walmart?
And I think not infecting people you live with when you are sick is incredibly hard. Why do you feel that way? Do you think ALL people who are testing positive for the Corona Virus are spending two weeks in a hospital completely quarantined with with zero human interaction?
There is a reason why when one person gets sick, others tend to follow. And it isn't because the sick person is trying to infect the people they live with. Okay, so what is that reason?
My replies and inquires are above in bold.
1) Because one of them has the virsus. Breathes out droplets and the person 1s behind them breathes them in. This is basic virsus transmission. The part that is sort is unclear is what the chances are
2) If they didn't want to get thier friends and family sick they wouldn't be long runs with groups. As dedicated runners they would have zero problems going out and getting the run done by themselves
3) You don't see the difference between playing a video game at your house when your friend is at his house and meeting in person? I would think that would be pretty obvious. And zero people are suggesting that getting together in person or hanging out at walmart is acceptable.
4) Of course not. And that is how lots of people get infected. In you life how often have you been sick and then someone else in your house gets sick 2 days later. Were you an assH*le who infect them intentionally or did it just happen
5) Because transmitting most virsus's and bacterialis incredibly easy. Again how many times in your life has a person you lived with been infected by you or you infected them?
So you are now saying that you are smarter than the health experts and the Governor in their state. If you are telling these kids not follow their state's directive and guidance, whatvarevthey supposed to do? By the way, do you ever drive over 55? The speed limits are there for safety. I will bet that you disobey some laws but these kids are most likely following theirs and you are still upset. Sort of like you telling to drive 25 in a 55 because you think it is safer. I think large groups of kids is the best way to get herd immunity in a hurry to save the most lives.
Dude, they were virtual social distancing. Some people virtual race, some virtual social distance. There is even a virtual boy. Look it up, its very respected.
Class action lawsuit wrote:
reallybros.? wrote:
Per the title, I went on my long run today and I saw a group of about 8 guys also long running. They all looked high school age and were clustered in a tight knit pack. I live in a suburban area in a large Midwestern state. At this point, is this acceptable or just plain stupid? I feel like I should have said something but I kept my mouth shut and ran by them at a careful 6 feet distance.
Stupidity of course. But you have to blame websites like letsrun.com for it as well, since they never put good recommendations out there for young runners.
I am looking forward for that class action lawsuit
Oh right, it’s letsrun ‘s fault. You turd of a human, looking forward to the action of rolling you in glitter to make you look better. ?
flu away wrote:
I think large groups of kids is the best way to get herd immunity in a hurry to save the most lives.
How are the kids going to develop herd immunity by running together if it is a safe activity that will not transmit the virsus? Obviously you believe the kids will infect each other and want to encourage that behavior. Odds are that 99.9% of them will be fine. And they will only kill off like 3% of their parents.
It depends.
Not acceptable in Florida, New York, New Jersey, Michigan or Louisiana.
Acceptable in Oregon, Kentucky, Kansas, Alaska.
I want them to go to school and sports and parties. Herd immunity is the only way to save most of the elderly. If we intentionally keep kids from being exposed, there will never be herd immunity and old people will continue to die for several years.
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
Help me to understand wrote:
My replies and inquires are above in bold.
1) Because one of them has the virsus. Breathes out droplets and the person 1s behind them breathes them in. This is basic virsus transmission. Wouldn't that be the same if the one that has the virus shares a ride with another person, shops, does anything around people?
The part that is sort is unclear is what the chances are. Bingo! Yet we still have all this bickering over things that are hard to understand and no one seems to be able to explain it well.
2) If they didn't want to get thier friends and family sick they wouldn't be long runs with groups.
My guess is if they thoughtt hey were infected they wouldn't be doing them either. As dedicated runners they would have zero problems going out and getting the run done by themselves. Agreed, but they are not breaking most states 10 or less rule, and it certainly is more enjoyable running with friends/teammates.
3) You don't see the difference between playing a video game at your house when your friend is at his house and meeting in person? Certainly, but that isn't what I was referring to when mentioning hanging with friends playing video games. I was referring to a handful of kids in someone's house playing video games together.
I would think that would be pretty obvious. That was. And zero people are suggesting that getting together in person or hanging out at walmart is acceptable. Again, with the social distancing language that most states have it seems like it could happen within the guidelines.
4) Of course not. And that is how lots of people get infected. In you life how often have you been sick and then someone else in your house gets sick 2 days later. Were you an assH*le who infect them intentionally or did it just happen. Luckily, I must have a pretty good immune system and common colds have been the extent of my winter illnesses. Vitamin C has worked well for me and Ricola Immune Boosters anytime anyone in the family/extended family mentions colds/flu bugs...so that ends up being half the winter...but the same basic health hygiene principals also play a big part as we are pretty picky about germs.
5) Because transmitting most virsus's and bacterialis incredibly easy. Again how many times in your life has a person you lived with been infected by you or you infected them?
Twice that I can recall...one daughter and twin boys!
bekele-is-gay wrote:
Not a big deal because if your lungs can handle running, then you don't have the virus.
bekele-is gay should get a Noble Prize for developing the quickest, most cost effective Covid-19 test!! Finally a simple test that I can understand and but I sense plenty of false positives with it...
(Before all the hateful responses - I'm just trying to add a smile to an otherwise sad situation we are dealing with... :)
Kids are going to be kids. There's nothing stupid about it. We were all there at one point.
Group Runner wrote:
I have studied it extensively because I had dozens of family members who were murdered there. The Nazis started a systematic brainwashing of the entire population by essentially convincing people that Jews were bad through propaganda and laws. In one month's time, we established laws that required people to stay inside. We fined and arrested people who do not comply. The media bombards people 24x7 that anyone who is not complying is bad. This very thread is scary in that a group of high school boys are being called out as bad for what should be positive behavior. The Government and the media have convinced everyone that the enemy is the population who are violating the shelter in place orders. Those people are quickly being viewed as the enemy.
Requiring people to observe social distancing for health reasons during a pandemic bears no relationship to Nazi genocide. Democracies make laws to protect their citizens, that may in some circumstances require restrictions on individual freedoms. That doesn't make them brutal dictatorships. It is farcical to argue that suggesting a group of school boys should observe social distancing can be equated with the oppression and genocide of the Jews.
Help me to understand wrote:
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
1) Because one of them has the virsus. Breathes out droplets and the person 1s behind them breathes them in. This is basic virsus transmission. Wouldn't that be the same if the one that has the virus shares a ride with another person, shops, does anything around people?
The part that is sort is unclear is what the chances are. Bingo! Yet we still have all this bickering over things that are hard to understand and no one seems to be able to explain it well.
2) If they didn't want to get thier friends and family sick they wouldn't be long runs with groups.
My guess is if they thoughtt hey were infected they wouldn't be doing them either. As dedicated runners they would have zero problems going out and getting the run done by themselves. Agreed, but they are not breaking most states 10 or less rule, and it certainly is more enjoyable running with friends/teammates.
3) You don't see the difference between playing a video game at your house when your friend is at his house and meeting in person? Certainly, but that isn't what I was referring to when mentioning hanging with friends playing video games. I was referring to a handful of kids in someone's house playing video games together.
I would think that would be pretty obvious. That was. And zero people are suggesting that getting together in person or hanging out at walmart is acceptable. Again, with the social distancing language that most states have it seems like it could happen within the guidelines.
4) Of course not. And that is how lots of people get infected. In you life how often have you been sick and then someone else in your house gets sick 2 days later. Were you an assH*le who infect them intentionally or did it just happen. Luckily, I must have a pretty good immune system and common colds have been the extent of my winter illnesses. Vitamin C has worked well for me and Ricola Immune Boosters anytime anyone in the family/extended family mentions colds/flu bugs...so that ends up being half the winter...but the same basic health hygiene principals also play a big part as we are pretty picky about germs.
5) Because transmitting most virsus's and bacterialis incredibly easy. Again how many times in your life has a person you lived with been infected by you or you infected them?
Twice that I can recall...one daughter and twin boys!
1) Sure if you aren't ill you can go out and do whatever you want. How are you going to prove you aren't ill? If we could say who wasn't ill (i.e. it takes days for the infection to show up), it would be easy to stop the spread of the virsus.
2) Not breaking rules and not being stupid aren't the same. I don't know what state they are in or the rules of the state but the general intent of social distancing isn't that you can hang out with 10 friends and be fine. It is to avoid unnecessary interations.
3) 41 states have stay at home orders. Maybe they are in the wrong and the other 9 are right. Or maybe those 9 governors are more concerned about their reelection than they are about not killing off people.
5) Why were you so dumb to infect people you life with? Why weren't you responsible? Or do you hate your kids;)
In the end how we look back at stupid activities will be dictated by the end result. If all 7 of those kids become sick and we have a couple parents die because of it(2 households were the run was the only interaction), everyone will talk about how stupid they were. If no one gets sick we can talk about how it was ok. Odds are you stupid activity will not get you killed. But some percentage of stupidity will result in people dying. If every american was as stupid as these kids we would have millions of deaths. If only .1% is as stupid as they are, it will not move the numbers.
Help me to understand wrote:
Yep, I watched the video, but if a handful of people who are NOT infected run together, what is the issue?
But how do they know that they are not infected?