wonder how Steve Magness feels about Mike Smith coaching Galen Rupp?

Agree. I was under the impression Smith knew Rupp was juiced all along. I suspect this is just assumed among that crowd. Keep in mind, Smith has never said that Rupp claimed to be clean. Smith himself has never claimed Rupp is clean.

By the time Magness was done talking in circles and navel gazing in his vocal frye, I’m sure Smith had no idea what his opinion on the matter was.

Hey Democrat wrote:

Agree. I was under the impression Smith knew Rupp was juiced all along. I suspect this is just assumed among that crowd.

Agree. The closer one is to the top, the more one knows how dirty this sport is in general, and the more one knows about the more obvious users.

casual obsever wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Ironically and tragically for Magness, the result of a prolonged aggressive investigation into Salazar and NOP was that Magness was the only "athlete" that committed an anti-doping rule violation, in large part self-inflicted for not complying with explicit Salazar's direction.

Lol, no. And what's with the quotation marks?

More precise: " Magness and Decker were the only athletes who were proven to have committed an anti-doping rule violation under Salazar".

rekrunner wrote:

I don't see how Smith deciding to coach Rupp could reflect badly on Smith.

There are so many smoking guns that a more ethical person would stay far away from that likely doper.

Lol. Yes.

There are several reasons for the quotation marks, but let's go with distinguishing Magness the "athlete" as opposed to Salazar, the "coach", who was also found guilty of an ADRV in the same investigation.

Your precision has only clouded what was a rather clear statement, by introducing an athlete that was not found guilty as a result of the investigation into Salazar and NOP, and has nothing to do with Magness, Rupp, or Smith (see subject line).

It seems to me that the ethical position is this one, coming from USADA:

"Importantly, all athletes, coaches and others under the jurisdiction of the World Anti-Doping Code are innocent and presumed to have complied with the rules unless and until the established anti-doping process declares otherwise. It is grossly unfair and reckless to state, infer or imply otherwise."

rekrunner wrote:

Your precision has only clouded what was a rather clear statement, by introducing an athlete that was not found guilty as a result of the investigation into Salazar and NOP, and has nothing to do with Magness, Rupp, or Smith (see subject line).

And yet it was you who brought up Salazar, despite him missing in the subject line.

Clouded? I only clarified that Salazar coached yet another athlete who committed an anti-doping rule violation (here: doped with testo like Salazar himself). So, there is quite a history here about Salazar and his athletes, like Rupp.

casual obsever wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Your precision has only clouded what was a rather clear statement, by introducing an athlete that was not found guilty as a result of the investigation into Salazar and NOP, and has nothing to do with Magness, Rupp, or Smith (see subject line).

And yet it was you who brought up Salazar, despite him missing in the subject line.

Clouded? I only clarified that Salazar coached yet another athlete who committed an anti-doping rule violation (here: doped with testo like Salazar himself). So, there is quite a history here about Salazar and his athletes, like Rupp.

The OP "katdaddy" brought up Salazar within the first 10 words of his Original Post, referring (like me) to the investigation where Magness was the lead whistle blower.

Your clarification about Salazar and Decker isn't helpful, when the question is how Magness should feel about Rupp and Smith.