Italy, 20 days, after lockdown, 889 new deaths today

when is the time for good news?

US will top 1000 deaths daily today. Once Louisiana and Florida get rolling, you'll notice.

Yes, sadly we’ll only see how dangerous trolls are when a little more time passes.

Only one answer wrote:

US will top 1000 deaths daily today. Once Louisiana and Florida get rolling, you'll notice.

1000/day ? I'm afraid it's going to be a lot worse than that just looking at the number of infected people.

UK deaths have started ramping up dangerously today, nearly 400 vs 180 yesterday, way worse than the Italian, Spanish or French "slopes"...no wonder given the delay in closing things down.

837 killed today after 23 days of lockdown.

This is a very long plateau.

deathinparadise wrote:

Only one answer wrote:

US will top 1000 deaths daily today. Once Louisiana and Florida get rolling, you'll notice.

1000/day ? I'm afraid it's going to be a lot worse than that just looking at the number of infected people.

UK deaths have started ramping up dangerously today, nearly 400 vs 180 yesterday, way worse than the Italian, Spanish or French "slopes"...no wonder given the delay in closing things down.

Sooner you get them out of the way, sooner you are over it. More people probably die by stringing it out (slower the curve, more other care is pushed back, more chance of random occurance of someone having the virus as you have to go out every x days to do shopping etc, domestic violence up 30% now since stay at home policy). Only consideration is the health service.

Making it linger on, just destroys whoevers economies more, and makes them in a worse place to get over it, and put better policies in place for future.

Baba Yaga B wrote:

837 killed today after 23 days of lockdown.

This is a very long plateau.

It is becoming clear that once community spread has taken hold, lockdown measures need to e very strict. Italy was very lax in its lockdown at the beginning. And then when it ramped up efforts, it still was not putting people with mild symptoms into quarantine. They were left to self quarantine at home and spread it to their families. That is why we are not seeing Italy starting to see the other side of the curve. This should be a warning for NY to take stronger measures to quarantine people with mild symptoms instead of letting them stay at home with family.

You want to quarantine them where?

Dwightarm wrote:

Baba Yaga wrote:

Italy expected the death toll to slow down much at least a week sooner. It is providing an exemple of a lockdown not really working.

Not necessarily. It takes a few weeks to really see a difference. 3 weeks may not be enough time to see it working effectively.

On top of that, it MAY be working and this is the result. If it had run unchecked, perhaps those numbers would be significantly higher.

This - you can't say something is not "working" unless you could provide a reasonable estimate of what the numbers would be if they had chosen to go a different path. You "might" be able to say its not working as well as they would hope - but that still leaves you with no alternative hypothesis of what would have made it work "better". It's not that hard of a concept to think that a virus that makes its way around a community mostly by close person to person contact will be slowed by any limitation of said contact and the more separation the greater the speed of which it slows. Italy has a number of compounding issues that make this worse, but it takes some pretty significant mental gymnastics to think that having any increase in the main manner of transmission would make things better.

plus, Costco, liquor stores, pot shops and gun stores. Try social distancing in a liquor store. What a joke