Italy just shot back up close to 1000 deaths in one day

Joe Blow wrote:

We need to close the New York border ASAP. NO ONE should be allowed out of NY!!

Been There Done That!

im the one that knows wrote:

They are just trying to delay it long enough to get ventilators and hospital beds set up.

There is no stopping it. Closing borders just will delay the inevitable for a couple of days. We have to get the economy rolling again even if it kills 10%. This is not sustainable.

I'm not trying to sound heartless. I'm just stating the facts

LOL....get the economy going again even if it kills 30 million people? ? ?

yeah economy will really be buzzing along if 1 in 10 people dies. imagine being at work at a place with 100 people and 10 of them die. You just carry on as normal and keep showing up? ? ?

The U.S. has not had a draft since 1973. We went to an all-volunteer military literally decades ago.

Scorpion_runner

There really needs to be be strict state closures, no non-essential travel across state lines. There really needs to be checkpoints Set up.

You do realize this would never hold up under Supreme Court scrutiny since it undermines the entire foundation of the principles the USA is built on?

That doesn't seem to be a true connection between China and Italy. Most of the most polluted cities in the world are in India, which to this point hadn't had many cases and is in full lockdown now as a country. China and the U.S. are the biggest world polluters.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/pollution-by-country/

Hey genius - the incubation period is 5 days on average but people wait another 5 days after experiencing symptoms before going to the hospital and then stay in the hospital an average of 20 days before dying. So you wouldn’t expect the lockdown to have an impact on deaths for 30 days, give or take. So if new deaths stop growing as quickly in 10 days, it will show that the lockdown has succeeded in flattening the curve. But if new deaths are still growing or just stable, it also suggests that the lockdown needs to be more strict.

New cases (not deaths) should be impacted after ~2 weeks of quarantine, and, in fact, they have been. But if fact new cases don’t start heading south in another week or so, it will be a sign that the lockdown needs to be tightened. Whenever cases peak, Italy will have at least another month of quarantine, probably more.

For those following at home, the lockdowns in the US have been less strict than in Italy - they are not even nationwide yet. And the evidence in Italy suggests that even what they are doing is not enough. That means that we have at least another two months of quarantine from whenever all 50 US states enact a lockdown. In other words, we will probably still be lockedown come June.

In other words, settle in, get comfortable. And don’t blow that $1,200 check all in one place.

Hey (real) genius,

This is a serious issue. And I am not going to down play it.

But you only listen to the "data" as provided. And a lot of it is wrong. Do you really trust the data from China? Has anyone talked about the connection between Wuhan and the Chinese immigrant in Northern Italy and how this has probably led to the high exposure and subsequent deaths? Probably not.

It will be bad, but to be honest you are only trusting the data you are provided. And again a lot of it is wrong. Anything using % of tested cases of coronavirus you should dismiss as it's going to correlate to increasing testing.

anonymous_1o313ij4423 wrote:

Hey (real) genius,

This is a serious issue. And I am not going to down play it.

But you only listen to the "data" as provided. And a lot of it is wrong. Do you really trust the data from China? Has anyone talked about the connection between Wuhan and the Chinese immigrant in Northern Italy and how this has probably led to the high exposure and subsequent deaths? Probably not.

It will be bad, but to be honest you are only trusting the data you are provided. And again a lot of it is wrong. Anything using % of tested cases of coronavirus you should dismiss as it's going to correlate to increasing testing.

I trust the chinese data more than the US data, and so do all the relevant experts.

anonymous_1o313ij4423 wrote:

Hey (real) genius,

This is a serious issue. And I am not going to down play it.

But you only listen to the "data" as provided. And a lot of it is wrong. Do you really trust the data from China? Has anyone talked about the connection between Wuhan and the Chinese immigrant in Northern Italy and how this has probably led to the high exposure and subsequent deaths? Probably not.

It will be bad, but to be honest you are only trusting the data you are provided. And again a lot of it is wrong. Anything using % of tested cases of coronavirus you should dismiss as it's going to correlate to increasing testing.

People who trust anything the Chinese government says should have a reality check. Look at what one of their high-ranking officials had to say:

This isn't some two-bit conspiracy theorist who writes a blog - this is a high-ranking government official! It shows how desperate they are to blame us for the mess they started.

A lot of suspicion on what their real numbers are:

Their draconian lockdown didn't work. Lol. I bet they had tens of thousands of deaths. They had to finally released their people because they were starving many to death (their government gave them a daily food rations). Remember they're trying to look good in front of the world because they're hosting the 2022 Olympics - can't commit too many human rights violations and expect to be center stage at Beijing.

I bet the virus is still circulating around that city like crazy - of course the Chinese government will say all is well & good:

Les wrote:

The U.S. has not had a draft since 1973. We went to an all-volunteer military literally decades ago.

Speaking of 1973 - and now that the left has a new-founded value for life - could we revisit Roe V Wade? Can we get daily reporting of those statistics?

coronasceptic wrote:

Les wrote:

The U.S. has not had a draft since 1973. We went to an all-volunteer military literally decades ago.

Speaking of 1973 - and now that the left has a new-founded value for life - could we revisit Roe V Wade? Can we get daily reporting of those statistics?

good lord....this explains a lot.

America # 1!! wrote:

coronasceptic wrote:

Speaking of 1973 - and now that the left has a new-founded value for life - could we revisit Roe V Wade? Can we get daily reporting of those statistics?

good lord....this explains a lot.

no? is this about saving lives - or soemthing else?

...but...muh italy...but...people can’t be dying... but trump knows all...but trump is wise...