Cure cannot be worse than the disease

How much time did you spend composing that nonsense BW?

You generally contribute nothing of note but you’re actually getting worse.

Shut down is an existential threat? China did it. SK did it. Many EU countries are doing it.

The US will have the worst outcome for the people out of all the countries, even the "sh!t hole" countries.

We're living in a plutocratic republic the "likes of which has never been seen."

We must curb stomp these clowns, from the white house to wall-street. Many slaves of this system have been sold a bill of goods and deprogramming is unlikely, but we can drag them to the promised land kicking and screaming anyway.

There won't be any three month lock down. Read my lips.

Rachel1 wrote:

How much time did you spend composing that nonsense BW?

You generally contribute nothing of note but you’re actually getting worse.

that's literally all you've got. You'll come around.

idel wrote:

There won't be any three month lock down. Read my lips.

I tend to agree, I don't think there will be any organized planning whatsoever that helps the public and the US will just limp along until the next catastrophe strikes.

The US has organized itself around propping up a degenerate class of privilege. They are an albatross around our collective necks. We don't need them and, unlike our precious grandmas, we don't want them.

Are people here really arguing that it's okay to sacrifice the lives of thousands of people to (maybe) save the economy? How incredibly awful do you need to be to think that? You know it's not just the older population right? It's anyone with a compromised immune system and anyone who has diabetes, heart issues, or asthma who is at risk. Today, the first person under 18 died from the virus. Are you willing to sacrifice your own parent or grandparent so businesses can reopen?

Hospitals are already running out of supplies, what happens if everyone gets sick at once? It won't be just people sick with the virus unable to get treatment because hospitals are over capacity, it'll be people with other health emergencies as well.

Sure, you can argue that death rates increase during a recession, but not like this. Nobody HAS to commit suicide because of financial issues. Very few people in the US actually starve to death each year. The impact is completely different.

What is with this 8chan meme?

In my day, those people used the website 4chan. Do the angry internet people without social lives now use 8chan? I see them everywhere. I honestly do not keep up with where the leading websites for those people are. The majority of anonymous forums are these guys. I would not limit it to any one place.

We already do this, buttercup.

Money would have huge short-term returns in healthcare of underdeveloped parts of the world, and most of the business world does not donate except to further their own image.

You are just observing a relative change in status quo.

It is all we can do to keep nuclear powers from taking over. No one has time or money for humanitarian efforts.

Okay...if you're advocating for long-term "Shelter in Place"/social distancing policy, the government then needs to pay everybody that is laid off their full wages and contributions that they were making to 401ks, insurance plans, etc.,if applicable. Small business owners need to be fully compensated for what their profit margins would yield with customers (one restaurant owner I know in NY that was shutdown said he has over 100 tables and he's at full capacity on weekends).

Furthermore, people suffering from the emotional trauma of isolation need to be compensated for any mental health services needed in either the short or long term. Any health related issues that are the result of isolation requiring treatment needs to compensated by the government. And this includes all children that are being affected by this either mentally or physically.

"Chronic social isolation increases the risk of mortality by 29%."

The government destroyed the world's best economy and put tens of millions out of work for a "virus" that has a mortality rate of "1.2%!"

A  "virus" where 83% of the infected experience mild or no symptoms!

A "virus" that that has a higher risk of complications to the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions (who would have thought)

The government needs to pay for the ECONOMIC DAMAGE they've done because of fear of a "virus" with a 1.2% mortality rate!

A World consumed by fear......

It doesn't need to do any of those things and, when push comes to shove, it won't be able to.

If you think you're going to be pandered too, think again. People in WW2 lined up to serve for years, and you can't go a couple weeks without access to your overpriced all-day message spas?You'll be given enough resources to live, expenses will be put on hold,and businesses can be compensated for retaining their employees. Don't expect any profits for anything. Time for some hard truths. Man up.

Yeah, no. People's basic needs will be provided for, some accommodations for access to entertainment and other quality of life services will be maintained, but priorities in who gets access to limited health resources will change to reflect our shared values. If you have a cyst on your arse, you're probably just gonna have to deal with it for a while. Sick grandma takes priority.

This is you:

"Sure, I'd like to see Hitler not win and all, but Imma gonna have to be compensated because people are too busy going to war rather than not being able to serve my particular set of interests."

That is fair enough, but let’s not forget their are experts on these fields on both sides of the argument. We do know how this plays out and have the data as Asia is months ahead.

Rachel1 wrote:

practical runner wrote:

And this is why Trump will win again, it’s not about the stock market or even the jobs, it’s that Trump is only one that actually stands up for the waitress or bus driver, or the flight attendant, those people are hurting, Trump gets it, the Dem leadership is still stuck on the stock market, obviously that’s not the play anymore.

Trump gets that his own businesses and resorts are hurting and that he that to change.

End the Trump/Kushner crime family.

He cares so much about them he's prepared to risk their lives, their families and friends and everyone they come into contact with. What a caring guy.

Great Corona information:

https://news.yahoo.com/watch-adorable-3-old-twins-201251530.html

Really? Would you care to produce evidence of this? As someone who ACTUALLY knows what they are talking about (as in professionally) I can assure you this is absolute nonsense. While consensus on case projections and mortality rate are not uniform the belief that we do not have enough data and that the data we do have does not point a pretty picture is uniform. The intervention necessary to balance against the downside risk of worst case projections is also uniform.

Even Ioannidis... the lone beacon of academic integrity that even remotely matches your assertion has clarified his op-Ed to indicate we simply don’t have enough data to warrant not treating this incredibly seriously.

Just shut up dude. The certainty with which you incorrectly speak about things is frankly bizarre.

'Life is worth much more than gold."

-Bob Marley

stop the insanity wrote:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1241935285916782593?s=20

Trump, Pence and God will eradicate this thing by Easter weekend!!! Hopefully Cuomo and those socialists doesn't destroy America by then.

To be fair, additional information came out that maybe COVID-19 was not the cause of death, that the teen had leukemia, and that he was already VERY sick. This is why people don't believe the media and do believe there is a narrative being pushed.

Training Smarter wrote:

To be fair, additional information came out that maybe COVID-19 was not the cause of death, that the teen had leukemia, and that he was already VERY sick. This is why people don't believe the media and do believe there is a narrative being pushed.

And how do we know that additional information except through media reports? How can you believe it if it comes from the media?

It came from a close friend of that family and the LOCAL news, not the national news.