Harvey tests positive for the virus. I guess he might be the first celebrity to die.
Harvey tests positive for the virus. I guess he might be the first celebrity to die.
Nobody has ever celebrated him personally.
No worries you will get it too.
It's just a matter of time.
OP. My apologies that this thread was deleted by one of our volunteer moderators. Seems like a perfectly interesting and topical thread to me.
I have two big questions.
1) How in the heck did he get it? Hasn’t he been in jail for a while now? Do experts think he got it in or out of prison?
2) I thought there was a shortage of tests in NYC? How in the hell does a hated rapist in jail get one of them? I personally think we should treat our prisoners with respect but there is so much to learn about this story. I mean I totally understand why you don’t want Covid-19 getting into the prison.
Another question how is he the only one to test positive? Convenient for him to get put of prison.
rojo wrote:
OP. My apologies that this thread was deleted by one of our volunteer moderators. Seems like a perfectly interesting and topical thread to me.
I have two big questions.
1) How in the heck did he get it? Hasn’t he been in jail for a while now? Do experts think he got it in or out of prison?
2) I thought there was a shortage of tests in NYC? How in the hell does a hated rapist in jail get one of them? I personally think we should treat our prisoners with respect but there is so much to learn about this story. I mean I totally understand why you don’t want Covid-19 getting into the prison.
They'd want to test any prisoner expected of having the disease since it could quickly spread throughout the prison. Obviously someone who visited the prison or a guard has to be positive and the prison should be testing anyone who has been there now.
What a slap in the face it would be if somehow HW became a significant figure in the spread of the virus and eventually helped save lives.
so this is how they Epstein him
The felon has twice now feigned injury or illness in order to be sent to an infirmary at another facility, where he has a private crapper and better food (i.e. meatloaf).
It was determined that Covid-19 was at this medical facility and/or contracted it during transit back to jail.
rojo wrote:
OP. My apologies that this thread was deleted by one of our volunteer moderators. Seems like a perfectly interesting and topical thread to me.
I have two big questions.
1) How in the heck did he get it? Hasn’t he been in jail for a while now? Do experts think he got it in or out of prison?
2) I thought there was a shortage of tests in NYC? How in the hell does a hated rapist in jail get one of them? I personally think we should treat our prisoners with respect but there is so much to learn about this story. I mean I totally understand why you don’t want Covid-19 getting into the prison.
After his initial arrest, he'd been out on bail. He's only been in prison since February 24th.
All prisoners have rights. And I don't mean necessarily Weinstein has a right to a test, but that the other prisoners have a right to be protected from the virus. I'm sure when he began to show symptoms it was quickly decided to test him in order to figure out what to do in such confined circumstances.
The last thing they want is a class action lawsuit from the inmates for not properly protecting them from an outbreak.
I think everyone has or has had the coronavirus.
Jambo Cabao wrote:
All prisoners have rights. And I don't mean necessarily Weinstein has a right to a test, but that the other prisoners have a right to be protected from the virus. I'm sure when he began to show symptoms it was quickly decided to test him in order to figure out what to do in such confined circumstances.
The last thing they want is a class action lawsuit from the inmates for not properly protecting them from an outbreak.
Healthcare in prison is actually fairly decent. Maybe it isnt as good as somebody like Weinstein would be used to outside of prison, but in line with what most middle class people with good insurance are used to, except with no copay (depending on the state, some charge low copays).
Food isnt so healthy, though. Not terrible, but light on fiber, high on salt and fat. Kind of like eating fast food all the time.
Anyway, the prison system is highly motivated to avoid an outbreak. It wouldn't just be a PR nightmare. Prison systems arent just charged with keeping prisoners in for the safety of the public, but also keeping the prisoners safe. It isnt just jobs at stake, but if anybody is shown to have acted negligently, they could face prosecution. As a result, tests become available.
He is undoubtedly being targeted by other prisoners every chance they get, with the complicity of the staff. Could have been deliberately exposed to it.
coach wrote:
Another question how is he the only one to test positive? Convenient for him to get put of prison.
Yep. Media connections.
Over 20 people jailed in NYC have tested positive as well as many corrections officers. A corrections investigator died from the virus a couple weeks ago.
Jails are the worst breeding grounds for epidemics and Rikers is the second largest jail facility in the US.
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RunRagged wrote:
Jambo Cabao wrote:
After his initial arrest, he'd been out on bail. He's only been in prison since February 24th.
All prisoners have rights. And I don't mean necessarily Weinstein has a right to a test, but that the other prisoners have a right to be protected from the virus. I'm sure when he began to show symptoms it was quickly decided to test him in order to figure out what to do in such confined circumstances.
The last thing they want is a class action lawsuit from the inmates for not properly protecting them from an outbreak.
In addition to being out and about prior to his conviction on February 24, since then HW has not been in regular prison. He's been in the Rikers Island infirmary or Bellevue Hospital.
In general, healthcare facilities, being giant petri dishes, are places where infectious disease spreads and is picked up very easily. Prison infirmaries and big city public hospitals like Bellevue are especially good breeding grounds for contagious disease.
Another key factor is that HW is male and therefore the prison infirmary and hospital ward he's been in are presumably for male patients. Males appear significantly more susceptible to COVID-19 than females. What's more, because males have been shown to be less scrupulous about hand washing and other personal hygiene practices that play a role in the spread of infectious disease, chances are good that men cooped up amongst other men will be infecting one another. Males, for example, have been found to be half as likely than females to cover their mouths when sneezing and coughing, and hocking up loogies and spitting them out in public is something many more men than women do.
In HW's case in particular, he's 68, has high blood pressure, obesity, a history of heart problems and recently had heart surgery - conditions that put him in the highest possible risk category for getting sick in the first place and experiencing serious complications from COVID-19.
From the NYTimes, March 12, the day after he was sentenced to spend the rest of his life in the slammer:
Harvey Weinstein, the once powerful film producer, was in good condition on Thursday after being hospitalized with chest pains the night before, only hours after a New York judge sentenced him to 23 years in state prison for sexual attacks on two women, his lawyer said.
Mr. Weinstein’s spokesman, Juda Englemayer, had said on Thursday morning that the movie producer had suffered a “mild heart attack” after his court appearance, but Mr. Englemayer later retracted that statement, saying Mr. Weinstein had been diagnosed with dangerously high blood pressure.
[...]
After the verdict (on February 24), Mr. Weinstein was taken by ambulance from the State Supreme Court in Manhattan to Bellevue Hospital Center with high blood pressure and heart palpitations.
He remained at the hospital for 10 days, underwent the heart procedure to install a stent and was then transferred to the North Infirmary Command, part of Rikers Island that houses inmates whose safety may be at risk if they are placed in the general population.
Chinese scientists report that in males coronavirus is known to attack the testicles, causing orchitis, which I hear can be quite painful. Wouldn't it be awful if that were to happen to HW?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/nyregion/harvey-weinstein-heart-attack.html
He would be a good test case for Trump's malaria drugs.
rojo wrote:
OP. My apologies that this thread was deleted by one of our volunteer moderators. Seems like a perfectly interesting and topical thread to me.
I have two big questions.
1) How in the heck did he get it? Hasn’t he been in jail for a while now? Do experts think he got it in or out of prison?
2) I thought there was a shortage of tests in NYC? How in the hell does a hated rapist in jail get one of them? I personally think we should treat our prisoners with respect but there is so much to learn about this story. I mean I totally understand why you don’t want Covid-19 getting into the prison.
How did this happen? We’re in the middle of a global pandemic. THINK
march madness wrote:
so this is how they Epstein him
More likely this is his ticket to a very early parole.
coach wrote:
Harvey tests positive for the virus. I guess he might be the first celebrity to die.
Epidemics go rampant in prisons. They are packed tightly together with nothing to stop the spread. This is broadly known in medicine and I'm quite frankly shocked this isn't known to the public.
Prisoners are extremely high risk for all outbreaks. The structure of prison is like a tinderbox. It just takes one person to spark the fire.
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