Calm the F**K Down! - What is wrong with everyone?

sighh wrote:

time to move on wrote:

No one is going to read all of that. And no one cares anymore. You are just talking to yourselves at this point.

+1

Also, neutral observers take note of how much more ‘information’ people on one side dish up in order to make their ‘argument’.

I'm finding quite the opposite. I talk to lots of folks from different backgrounds every day and very few are convinced this is being accurately portrayed by the media and almost without exception want more information.

Interesting to note that yours and the individual you agree with is an appeal to ignorance.

About the only individuals I run into that are completely bought in are white upper middle class professional types. And even that is changing. Of course I do my part to disabuse them of their misinformed opinions.

Amazing how it is that the MSM controls how you (don't) think about things isn't it?

Facts Matter? wrote:

Fact Smatter . . wrote:

I'm sorry that you're too stupid to understand the science.

The overwhelming science points to a massive overreaction to poorly constructed models.

The beaches in California are opening and people are out enjoying the sun. The REAL science is winning, not the pseudoscience of models and projections.

Yep- and who funds those organizations that provided those junk statistical models. And why isn't Neil Ferguson in jail- he's already responsible for corruption on a grand scale.

The question is how long are they going to try and milk the Covid business model and how much damage will be in it's wake. People of conscience will try to limit that damage.

Corona Bookie wrote:

Ok we won't know the official flu numbers until the summer, but as of 2 weeks ago flu deaths have hardly decreased over usually April averages.

Giles Corey wrote:

Take the total number of Covid deaths and sub out the decrease in the number of flu deaths from last year March/April to 2020 March/April and it should put you in the ballpark

Well, a week or so ago I went to the CDC website where it noted that the recent massive decrease in flu deaths continued. Based on that language, I think the decrease coincides with the Covid deaths

zxcvxczv wrote:

I'm outside on my feet 2-3 hours a day. What are you on?

You're killing people!!! You're killing people!!! The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!!!

big dave222 wrote:

the antibody tests are now revealing scores of asymptomatic people. Death rate is well under 1%.

The covid19 fatality rate is probably way below .01% when other causes are removed.

Here is a PDF by Carl Sagan that shows infection fatality rates, including many deaths from other causes.

big dave222 wrote:

I'll be hitting the beach tomorrow.

Sun and exercise is good for the body.

Doomers, you can stay inside and cower. Netflix and Amazon say thanks for the money.

This might be hard for deniers to grasp, but you can still trust the science AND get outside. Three hours on the mountain bike today AND I'll watch some Amazon tonight.

Facts Matter? wrote:

The overwhelming science points to a massive overreaction to poorly constructed models.

The beaches in California are opening and people are out enjoying the sun. The REAL science is winning, not the pseudoscience of models and projections.

Beaches in Sydney were closed (in late summer too) after a spike in cases due to packed beaches, especially Bondi. Cases directly traced to 'internationals'.

Stop being like your leader. Yes, we all know UV light and heat kills an exposed virus, we have known that for may years, not found it out in a press conference and then 'ad libbed' about injecting UV and disinfectants.

It does not stop the spread of infection from close contact.

I am Sam wrote:

Facts Matter? wrote:

The overwhelming science points to a massive overreaction to poorly constructed models.

The beaches in California are opening and people are out enjoying the sun. The REAL science is winning, not the pseudoscience of models and projections.

Beaches in Sydney were closed (in late summer too) after a spike in cases due to packed beaches, especially Bondi. Cases directly traced to 'internationals'.

Stop being like your leader. Yes, we all know UV light and heat kills an exposed virus, we have known that for may years, not found it out in a press conference and then 'ad libbed' about injecting UV and disinfectants.

It does not stop the spread of infection from close contact.

It's no use. Time to just sign off and let this website turn into the right wing echo chamber it is destined to be. They have not listened to any of our reasoned responses in the past and they will not in future.

Someone has taken the Fact Smatter handle and registered it, so I can't even post under my normal handle anymore.

Brojos, please ban my IP. I am done.

Libertarian Centrist wrote:

Someone has taken the Fact Smatter handle and registered it, so I can't even post under my normal handle anymore.

I am Sam wrote:

Yes, we all know UV light and heat kills an exposed virus, we have known that for may years, not found it out in a press conference and then 'ad libbed' about injecting UV and disinfectants.

It does not stop the spread of infection from close contact.

A) My post has nothing to do with sunlight and it's effect or lack of effect on the virus, it has to do with people no longer hiding in their houses in fear of contracting a not-that-deadly virus.

Stop being like your leader.

B) Only idiots with low IQs make assumptions like this.

Allen, I hope you write a book. Seriously, you have more insight than anyone.

Facts Matter? wrote:

A) My post has nothing to do with sunlight and it's effect or lack of effect on the virus, it has to do with people no longer hiding in their houses in fear of contracting a not-that-deadly virus.

Stop being like your leader.

B) Only idiots with low IQs make assumptions like this.

You mean you were just being 'sarcastic' here?

Facts Matter? wrote:

The beaches in California are opening and people are out enjoying the sun. The REAL science is winning, not the pseudoscience of models and projections.

Yep...just like your leader then

No need to resign: Facts matter will stop posting wednesdays, cause you know, 61K is the number to silence him, he promized, just like 2600 - deaths? no, cases, of which only .26 would die because of the .01% death rate - was the number to silence Bad Wiggins.

Well, wait a minute. This Bad Wiggins character have been silenced, right?

Facts Matter? wrote:

A) My post has nothing to do with sunlight and it's effect or lack of effect on the virus, it has to do with people no longer hiding in their houses in fear of contracting a not-that-deadly virus.

Well, last time I checked, going to Bondi beach was pretty much the opposite of "hiding in one's house in fear of contracting a not-that-deadly virus", yet the official story in Sydney mentionned by I Am Sam is that most early cases were retraced to having spent time on that packed beach one particular day.

land of enchantment wrote:

This might be hard for deniers to grasp, but you can still trust the science AND get outside. Three hours on the mountain bike today AND I'll watch some Amazon tonight.

Deniers? Maybe in your binary world. Most, not all, the "deniers" understand that that COVID-19 is a very contagious virus, with, likely, a higher death rate that the average flu. But what we haven't been convinced of, and what new data regularly contradicts, is that it was deadly enough, to the public as a whole, to shut down and wreck the world economy because of it.

Support your argument, debunk others, quit being lazy and calling names. Are you capable of this? Sadly, most are not.

You have To double or triple the official c19 deaths number to account for all thé excess mortalité.

dunes runner wrote:

big dave222 wrote:

the antibody tests are now revealing scores of asymptomatic people. Death rate is well under 1%.

The covid19 fatality rate is probably way below .01% when other causes are removed.

Here is a PDF by Carl Sagan that shows infection fatality rates, including many deaths from other causes.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zC3kW1sMu0sjnT_vP1sh4zL0tF6fIHbA6fcG5RQdqSc/edit?usp=sharing

1% and .01% aren't even the same ballpark.

.01% seem way, way off. Even the spreadsheet you link to shows .20% which is 20X of .01%.

You do realize 12,067 have been killed by COVID in NYC according to official numbers? NYC may not be representative of COVID overall but 12,000 of 8 million population of NYC = .15% of NYC.

I have no idea what the provenance of this Google Doc is, but Carl Sagan died in 1996, so I'm pretty sure he isn't the source.

Or maybe that is just what they want you to believe...

Of course we should always trust anonymous sources on the internet.

wejo wrote:

dunes runner wrote:

The covid19 fatality rate is probably way below .01% when other causes are removed.

Here is a PDF by Carl Sagan that shows infection fatality rates, including many deaths from other causes.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zC3kW1sMu0sjnT_vP1sh4zL0tF6fIHbA6fcG5RQdqSc/edit?usp=sharing

1% and .01% aren't even the same ballpark.

.01% seem way, way off. Even the spreadsheet you link to shows .20% which is 20X of .01%.

You do realize 12,067 have been killed by COVID in NYC according to official numbers? NYC may not be representative of COVID overall but 12,000 of 8 million population of NYC = .15% of NYC.

Dunes runner deserves a ban. Spreading false information about vaccines should be cause for a ban, and they've done far worse than that.