10 DAYS TO COLLAPSE, warns Tom Bossert former Homeland Security Advisor

moran112312 wrote:

This virus will kill Trump's base and the US will become a 1 party Democrat state.

Isn't that a good thing?

That's some weird trolling. Since, Trump's base is rural/suburban and Democrat base is concentrated in major urban areas that one would assume would take the heaviest hits, perhaps be written off entirely. Your scenario is Venzuela writ large, nothing like empty stores and day long lines for toilet paper, not as in pandemic emergency situation, but as every normal.

Please watch this about origins of the Coronavirus wet markets

Pass it on to friends

Please urge your representatives to ban chinas use of these markets

https://youtu.be/TPpoJGYlW54

https://youtu.be/Y7nZ4mw4mXw

Ty

dunes runner wrote:

Roy,

According to official reports, the virus is already everywhere.

Therefore..... whether people quarantine or not offers no more protection either day.

Also, I seriously doubt that the virus is all that contagious Consider, how did the first person get the virus, since no one else had it at that time? Obviously the first person could not have been infected from somebody else.

The logical conclusion is that the virus DOES NOT come from other people.

It most likely comes from the air or the water.

Personally I think it comes from the air, which would be the easiest way to spread it around the world. Maybe it comes from chemtrails. Maybe we should be calling it the chemtrail virus. Or the airborne virus.

This is a VERY dangerous opinion. If you compare areas or time frames within a single area you see that case rates markedly decrease when social distancing and quarantine measures are in place.

Some estimates suggest that each day we delay quarantine will result in a 40 percent increase in cases.

Please follow the science, not the orange hunch

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

The damage being economically and socially by the over the top panic from a virus that to date has killed 1 in 10 million of the American population is far worse than the damage done by the actual virus.

Corona virus is worse than the flu, probably, but don't believe the death rate, its almost certainly much less because of lack of reported cases. Containment efforts at this point are a lost cause. Its spread to too many places we dont yet know about. Accept it's not that bad and everyone go about their lives normally.

Listen to Elon!

Sensibility is not allowed on Let's Run.

Fake news reports wrote:

Now it turns out just as many have been saying all along, that most of the deaths have been misdiagnosis from other causes.

You have evidence of this?

If this is the case then I am optimistic.

Virus would be way less deadly than people say it is

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/dr-marty-makary-coronavirus-think-145547356.html

Not necessarily. Again, it takes 2+ weeks for most people to die and / or recovery.

Thee US has only closed 91 cases. And of those, 51/91 ended in death.

You can’t look at total number of cases reported by total number of deaths because it’s exponential growth. Each day, the percentage of new cases is an even larger percentage of the total.

For example, let’s take 10 doubling sample in which we consider 3 days the timeframe for a case to be considered new.

Day 1: added cases: 1, total cases: 1 (total new cases 1)

Day 2: added cases: 2, total cases: 3 (total new cases 3)

Day 3: added cases: 4, total cases: 7 (total new cases 7)

Day 4: added cases: 8, total cases: 15 (total new cases: 14)

Day 5: added cases: 16, total cases: 31 (total new cases: 28)

Day 6: added cases: 32, total cases: 63 (total new cases: 56)

Day 7: added cases: 64, total cases: 127 (total new cases: 112)

Day 8: added cases: 128, total cases: 255 (total new cases: 224)

Day 9: added cases: 256, total cases: 511 (total new cases: 448)

Day 10: added cases: 512, total cases: 1013 (total new cases 896)

So you can see, in this example of exponential growth, on day 10, we have 1,013 cases but 88% of them “new”.

As such, more cases means that the death curve will be exponential curve as well, but based on lag time and closed cases.

It seems the virus is dying down in China with 32,00 deaths.

Quarantine, self isolation, towns in lock down won't stop this spreading, but it will slow the spread. The longer this can be spread out, the more health systems can cope.

This virus is not going to go away, the only thing that will lessen it's impact is for populations to grow immunity from it. For this to happen, it is estimated that in excess of 60% of the population must contract it to develop herd immunity.. That equates to 200 million people in the US.

Vaccines may eventually be developed, but the virus may return each year in a different strain.

dunes runner wrote:

Roy,

According to official reports, the virus is already everywhere.

Therefore..... whether people quarantine or not offers no more protection either day.

Also, I seriously doubt that the virus is all that contagious Consider, how did the first person get the virus, since no one else had it at that time? Obviously the first person could not have been infected from somebody else.

The logical conclusion is that the virus DOES NOT come from other people.

It most likely comes from the air or the water.

Personally I think it comes from the air, which would be the easiest way to spread it around the world. Maybe it comes from chemtrails. Maybe we should be calling it the chemtrail virus. Or the airborne virus.

Congratulations! You have just proven that there is no such thing as a contagious disease! A Nobel Prize surely awaits you.

Good Job!

It's not just magically "dying down". The whole damned region was put on 24/7 lock down!

For now, lock down is all we've got (unless we can be as sophisticated and disciplined as the South Koreans).

It’s interesting how many on this thread are convinced they know the ultimate outcome of COVID19 and what counter-measures work or don’t. What we have now is enough data to be very concerned about the trajectory of the disease and a variety of implemented responses: harsh military-enforced lockdown as in China, intense isolation with novel approaches like drive through testing in South Korea, early isolation as in Norway, late isolation as in Italy, late isolation laced with lying propaganda from the president and very late testing in the US, and a deliberate decision to do nothing in the UK. It’s admittedly naturalistic but at least will eventually teach us some things that we don’t know now, unless you’re Bad Wigins in which case all has already been revealed. I do think it’s safe to conclude that China and Italy didn’t deliberately crash their economies at the request of Nancy Pelosi and the liberal media.

evidence? wrote:

If this is the case then I am optimistic.

Virus would be way less deadly than people say it is

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/dr-marty-makary-coronavirus-think-145547356.html

Why would this be good news you nitwit?

What he's proven is that he's an idiot along with posters such as Bad Wigins, and the Brojos

Exactly, that guy doesn't understand latency or disease progression...

The Corona Bros are dangerous and it's stunning how much of that cavalierness I see on LRC. If this virus doesn't devastate populations worldwide it will be because of heroic measures at the level of nation-state. Of course, success on that level will then allow the Corona Bros to scream that the whole thing was a gross overreaction to begin with.

Hey Corona Bros, phukk you. Follow the guidance from health experts, be aggressive in social distancing, and maybe later you can gloat (while alive and while your families are safe) about how stupid we all were.

There is a part of me that would love to see folks who tend toward being Corona Bro-like about such things to suffer, but then that would mean those clowns would spread the virus further. For now, STFU and get with the program.

What complete rubbish... you Libt**d sheep are so completely owned you can't even see it.

FACT! The death rate is under 0.1% when you take into account ALL the cases of infected people, not just the most sick who got tested.

FACT! The death rate is WAY UNDER 0.1% when you factor in the other diseases that actually caused the deaths. More like 0.03% or lower. No coincidence that old, sick people are apparently "dying" of coronavirus. They're not. They're dying of their other conditions. Do you get it? Do your research.

FACT! Healthy people have got nothing to fear from coronavirus whatsoever. Look at the young people who got it bad and died so far, notice a pattern? Underlying conditions, smokers, obese, undiagnosed diabetes, unhealthy lifestyles. If you're normal and healthy you won't even know you've got it.

FACT! The growth rate in cases is fake news. They're ONLY counting people who got tested. MANY more people have it. MOST of the people were infected before MOST of the testers got tested. Therefore the ACTUAL number of cases started way higher and is growing at a way lower % rate. Think about it. 100 new cases from 1000 known cases = a growth rate of 10%. But the actual number is 10,000 not 1000. Therefore ONE PERCENT growth per day. Literally nothing.

FACT! Who has the most to gain from this so called "outbreak"? Government. Pharma. Liberal do-gooders. Follow the money people ... you're being played!

I have not changed my behaviour in any way whatsover, and will not do so. I'm telling as many people as I can to do the same. People like Bad Wigins are doing the same as well, half of you will listen, and half won't, sound familiar??

Hasta La Vista Baby - this virus WON'T be back!!

TTH wrote:

evidence? wrote:

If this is the case then I am optimistic.

Virus would be way less deadly than people say it is

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/dr-marty-makary-coronavirus-think-145547356.html

Why would this be good news you nitwit?

It’d be great news to me because it would mean that the disease is not killing nearly as many people as we thought it could.

OK, I've changed my mind. If there is a way for the Idiotocracy including you to be 'Darwin-ated' in this crisis, maybe that's OK. How many elderly victims will you take with you, you selfish phukkstikk?