Seems like a lot of athletes with potential ties to PEDs die young.
FloJo?
Any docs on here that could explain if there might be some sort of correlation between PEDs and early death?
https://sports.yahoo.com/nicolas-portal-dies-heart-attack-190313541.html
Steroids, absolutely.
Even without PED, some endurance athletes will develop cardiac arrhytmia (see the book "The Haywire Heart"). No need to be alarmist about it. Most would be okay. Just don't think simply being clean will spare you from this.
This was not a complete surprise. He was forced to sit out the 2009 season b/c of a heart arrhythmia. Despite the headlines, he probably died from cardiac arrest, not a heart attack. (See the article below.)
As for PEDs, there is some evidence they are bad for heart health:
https://newsroom.heart.org/news/chronic-anabolic-steroid-use-may-damage-heart-arteries
It is too bad that journos are so stupid or careless they can't keep straight on the difference between heart attacks and cardiac arrests. This article says "attack" in the headline, and "arrest" in the text.
free willy wrote:
Even without PED, some endurance athletes will develop cardiac arrhytmia (see the book "The Haywire Heart"). No need to be alarmist about it. Most would be okay. Just don't think simply being clean will spare you from this.
And this condition seems more prevalent in cyclists. I have not kept up with the literature in this area so maybe some light has been shed on why them and not say ultra runners.
I know everyone has corona fatigue.... BUT What about coronavirus? Supposedly it may cause deterioration of the heart.
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2020/02/27/what-heart-patients-should-know-about-coronavirus
has to be checked wrote:
What about coronavirus?
No! The article you cite does not say corona attack the heart directly. It says infection with coronavirus will be worse in people with heart disease, mostly because the lung problems stress the heart. This guy did not have heart disease. He died of cardiac arrest, which is caused by electrical problems that mess up the heart's rhythm. He had a history of arrhythmia. It was so bad in 2009, he couldn't get certified to race.
Epo, transfusions, tramadol all in excess can kill you.
The guy retired in 2012 due to arrhythmia.... you conspiracy nuts never miss a chance to shut up
Just cause the guy retired doesn't mean that he didn't exercise. He only retired from competing competitively. He could have doped for years prior to developing heart problems and the dope exacerbated his heart problems.
Subway Surfers wrote:
Epo, transfusions, tramadol all in excess can kill you.
Don't get high on your own supply.
A couple of months ago I did a bit of research (google scholar) on this topic and from what I remember:
- dynamic exercise (i.e. running, swimming, ...) make the heart volume/size bigger
- static exercise (i.e. weightlifting, gymnastics, ...) make the walls of the heart thicker
Of course it's not 100% one or the other.
For example: weightlifting will primarily make the walls of the heart thicker, but also make the heart size slightly bigger. Running will primarily make the heart size bigger, and slightly increase the thickness of the walls.
Cycling is special because it's quite close to 50% dynamic and 50% static exercise, which makes the heart both bigger and thicker, much more than other sports.
This is currently the hypothesis of why cyclists are much more likely to develop heart problems...
Luv2Run wrote:
free willy wrote:
Even without PED, some endurance athletes will develop cardiac arrhytmia (see the book "The Haywire Heart"). No need to be alarmist about it. Most would be okay. Just don't think simply being clean will spare you from this.
And this condition seems more prevalent in cyclists. I have not kept up with the literature in this area so maybe some light has been shed on why them and not say ultra runners.
A couple of months ago I did a bit of research (google scholar) on this topic and from what I remember:
- dynamic exercise (i.e. running, swimming, ...) make the heart volume/size bigger
- static exercise (i.e. weightlifting, gymnastics, ...) make the walls of the heart thicker
Of course it's not 100% one or the other.
For example: weightlifting will primarily make the walls of the heart thicker, but also make the heart size slightly bigger. Running will primarily make the heart size bigger, and slightly increase the thickness of the walls.
Cycling is special because it's quite close to 50% dynamic and 50% static exercise, which makes the heart both bigger and thicker, much more than other sports.
This is currently the hypothesis of why cyclists are much more likely to develop heart problems...
Have some respect you POS
BelgianBloke wrote:
Cycling is special because it's quite close to 50% dynamic and 50% static exercise, which makes the heart both bigger and thicker, much more than other sports.
This is currently the hypothesis of why cyclists are much more likely to develop heart problems...
Actual heart problems or the appearance of a heart problem? Over ten years ago I was diagnosed with an 'athletic heart' (enlarged, thickened walls). I had an EKG in the morning which showed that I had possible blockages in my arteries and took an emergency stress test in the afternoon. The ultrasound of my heart showed it functioning fully normally, just larger and stronger than average.
I cycled to that appointment in the morning, then to work, back to the office to schedule the test and then home. My girlfriend insisted she drive me to the stress test. They had me run on a treadmill for the test much to my dismay (not at all into running at the time and was annoyed they didn't have a stationary bike).
Most early death cardiac arrests in athletes are due to undetected genetic cardio vascular disease.
Remember Jim Fixx and "Caballo Blanco" from Born to Run?
Just because you are athletic, run, cycle, walk, don't assume you are immune.
Check your blood pressure and get regular checkups and lab work no matter your age.
Stay healthy my friends.
Subway Surfers wrote:
Epo, transfusions, tramadol all in excess can kill you.
Life can kill you, idiot.
Anabolic steroids abuse is associated with heart issues, certainly, especially in women.
Flojo family is disgusting to keep the legacy going, while women are at risk. discipable.
low testosterone is more a factor in heart disease, and it's a tonic for over 50 in replacement therapy, but some men don't need it.
PEDs are among the finest medicines out there, and of course they are not used for health,
just abuse.
it is total moronic.
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