America does junk food and processed refined crap better than anyone else. The stuff is attractive and Americans love it. Humanity also loves it. Great American fast food is being exported all over the world and has been massively successful. It's addictive. It tastes good.
As an aside, the President of the United States of America promotes great American fast food at the White House to successful college athletes -- such a great message to send to the nation.
Jelly Dean wrote:
Obese criteria
It is measured by the body mass index, or BMI, a figure calculated from a person’s weight and height. A BMI of 25 or greater is considered overweight, a BMI of 30 and above is obese, and a BMI of 40 or above is severely obese.
A person who is 5-foot-4, the average height for U.S. women, is considered obese at a weight of 174 pounds and severely obese above 232 pounds. A person who is 5-foot-9, about the average height for men, is deemed obese at 203 pounds and severely obese at 270.
What can be done to fight against this flea that will cost billion and billion to healthcare systems? Sport is a great way to maintain weight but people eat way too unhealthy and way too much.
Us conservatives call that progress.
Obesity is the greatest indicator of depressed roaming linear thinkers. It certainly helps every commercial advertises pizza or burgers (notice the people in the commercials are never even slightly overweight). Not to mention city planners allow Starbucks and McDonald’s to annex entire swaths of land sprinkling locations at 200 ft intervals. Or what about subsidized farming which focuses resources on corn and soy that we have to consume in some one form or another. What about laziness. Today the doughy tech wonks are creating a world bereft of physical activity. Anxiety disorders welfare monopolizing The Market, as in like everything. You don’t need to go buy groceries. Just stay at home and allow yourself to be entertained by our content and we will bring rich fatty foods for you to thoughtlessly shove in the meat grinder of a mouth
Americans are more depressed and have less free time than europeans. If you dont have time and holidays to go out and relax you also wont be happy. Unhappy people eat all the time to make themselves happy. Also shaming fat people helps as is shown by the very low rates in china.
Our Prez says it’s fake news.
America is the best-nourished country in the world !
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
.InjuryProne. wrote:
Yeah it’s getting out of hand and the body positivity movement doesn’t help. But BMI isn’t the best measure to use as it doesn’t differentiate muscle and fat.
10 years ago I was 70 lbs heavier at the same body fat % ~10
Yeah, BMI is definitely designed for the "average" person. If you're slightly above average in muscle mass, you'll register as "obese".
Rubbish!
63 pounds of extra muscle isn't "slightly above average " (and frankly not very believable either).
This is the common excuse of fatties, "oh, I just have more muscle " or "I'm just big boned"
Nope, you're just fat.
If you're fit but muscled you might have an overweight BMI, but not obese. Admit it, you're just fat.
The Yeti wrote:
America does junk food and processed refined crap better than anyone else. The stuff is attractive and Americans love it. Humanity also loves it. Great American fast food is being exported all over the world and has been massively successful. It's addictive. It tastes good.
As an aside, the President of the United States of America promotes great American fast food at the White House to successful college athletes -- such a great message to send to the nation.
LMFAO.
The stuff is absolute crap. I live in France. The country with the best and most refined food in the entire planet. The only reason some of us eat American crap is because sometimes we don't have time to cook, and want to eat something fast and cheap
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
Yeah, BMI is definitely designed for the "average" person. If you're slightly above average in muscle mass, you'll register as "obese".
Of course BMI is not perfect but I am pretty sure that 99.9% of the obese people have not more muscle mass
BMI is a horrible metric. My BMI is 26.5 and I can run 4.35, do 25 pull ups and my body fat is <10%. 37 years old and I feel great. I went to get my annual check up and the doctors wrote 'overweight' on my charts.
I guarantee if you hear someone shouting at their kids in a shop,90% of the time it's a fat woman doing the shouting,just look around and you will see.They are too fat to control their kids and the fats glands makes them not realise how loud they shout.
Your commander in chief is obese himself. And he serves fast food to sports teams.
And this appears to be common here. I have a friend who worked at a tutoring center for kids. One time, his boss (obese herself) asked him to get pizza for the kids, so the kids wouldn't have to eat "junk food". Not sure what foods she considers to be junk food then if she thinks pizza is not.
Many American cities are not walk or bike friendly. You cut PE and serve your children fries for lunch. Most groceries are full of sugar and corn syrup.
I remember the first time I went to Walmart and saw this really fat woman on one of these scooter; that was one of these WTF-moments.
Also, here is a picture of the German secretary of state (Minister of Foreign Affairs), Heiko Maas, with the American secretary of state, Mike Pompeo.
https://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Secretary+State+Mike+Pompeo+Hosts+Foreign+pUlizyerWRXx.jpg
It is a catch 22. People start overeating usually to self medicate in some way. The more overweight you become, the more your brain atrophies, leading to deeper depression and bad decision making (which leads to more overeating). Brain atrophy (leading eventually to dementia), starts at least 30 years before any noticeable symptoms show up. The first symptoms (brain fog, perpetually bad mood, bad decision making) are usually attributed to stress or "life" and not taken too seriously. Your behaviors that you choose (eating healthy, getting some exercise, getting enough sleep, curbing alcohol consumption), every day, either accelerate or decelerate this process.
Also, the food pyramid that us 80's kids grew up with was basically a "get fat plan", with a diet based heavily on grains. It closely resembled a plan published for farmers around the same time as a way to successfully fatten livestock. The original version of that food pyramid would have been healthier, but special interest groups lobbied for their preferred tweaks and the final version ended up being a plan for obesity.
Now we have devolved to the point where the typical American is eating a diet filled with stuff that should not even be classified as food. Makers of processed food spend a lot to concoct "food" in a way that screws with our endocrine systems, so that we don't get the message that we are full and we crave certain foods more. We allow food in the US with additives that other developed countries don't allow.
Proposing that tax payers split the cost of healthcare in this country without overhauling the "food" regulations is basically creating an enormous money pit. Many people now realize the cost of eating crap and have taken charge of their own health. These people do not pay much into the healthcare system. The powers that be want that money. They want my money, even though I grow my own vegetables and only go to the doctor for a check up every year or two. With universal healthcare they get my money whether I want their product or not, or even whether I ever use it or not. There are people in this country getting filthy rich off of illness. With universal healthcare they will become much richer. Do you think that those people really want to see a healthy America???
If the government was really interested in improving the health of Americans, then they would address the problem before they start throwing more money at the symptoms. We are eating ourselves to death, not just by the amount we eat, but by what we choose to eat. If it didn't grow in the ground or have a mother then it is not real food. It's pretty simple. There is no such thing as a Cheeto tree!
Then this is considered obese:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/18/1d/d8181dc6e9fbba935008148f05e5e0db.jpg
Ivanka wrote:
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
Yeah, BMI is definitely designed for the "average" person. If you're slightly above average in muscle mass, you'll register as "obese".
Rubbish!
63 pounds of extra muscle isn't "slightly above average " (and frankly not very believable either).
This is the common excuse of fatties, "oh, I just have more muscle " or "I'm just big boned"
Nope, you're just fat.
If you're fit but muscled you might have an overweight BMI, but not obese. Admit it, you're just fat.
No, I was north of 210 lbs when I was bulking at my heaviest. I’m under 150 now and bf was about the same. Maybe I was 12 then and 10 now but that’s negligible.
I was able to get down to 178 4 months later @6% though calorie restriction and hiit a couple times a week.
I’ve never been fat and never will be fat it’s not something I’ll let happen. It look me eating 6-7k calories a day to get above 210 from like 160 over the course of a year.
So yea BMI isn’t a great measure.
.InjuryProne. wrote:
So yea BMI isn’t a great measure.
For an entire population it is. Very few people are fit enough that BMI is misleading. It may not work for you, but it does for millions of people.
The perfect obesigenic, "weaponized" diet engneered by the food industry is low in protein and balanced between high-omega 6 fats and refined carbs: 12% protein, 44% fats and 44% carbs. This combination, which only occurs briefly, if at all, in nature for humans, engages the Randle cycle in conjunction with hyperinsulemia and leptin resistance (appetite dysregulation) and prioritizes fat storage with very low satiety and hyperpalatablity.
Junk food is a "balanced diet" of fat/carb parity with minimal protein, all with low nutrient density so the brain and body are never satisfied.
YMMV wrote:
The perfect obesigenic, "weaponized" diet engneered by the food industry is low in protein and balanced between high-omega 6 fats and refined carbs: 12% protein, 44% fats and 44% carbs. This combination, which only occurs briefly, if at all, in nature for humans, engages the Randle cycle in conjunction with hyperinsulemia and leptin resistance (appetite dysregulation) and prioritizes fat storage with very low satiety and hyperpalatablity.
Junk food is a "balanced diet" of fat/carb parity with minimal protein, all with low nutrient density so the brain and body are never satisfied.
Meat consumption per capita in the US is among the highest in the world.
We should all become obligate carnivores. Have you ever seen a fat cheetah?
check out the UK wrote:
I travel quite frequently to UK/ Europe.
You are out kicking us in portulence .
And all of your fag smokes may keep your weight down by a stone at most.
And all of you smell like ashtrays not to mention your nether regions.
Someone’s easily triggered, did it hit a nerve?
bmi is a total joke wrote:
BMI is a horrible metric. My BMI is 26.5 and I can run 4.35, do 25 pull ups and my body fat is <10%. 37 years old and I feel great. I went to get my annual check up and the doctors wrote 'overweight' on my charts.
You are not overweight; you are a dwarf
