I really hope not. Seems like the next 2-3 weeks are crucial in terms of whether the virus continues to spread or a vaccine is developed.
I really hope not. Seems like the next 2-3 weeks are crucial in terms of whether the virus continues to spread or a vaccine is developed.
We just started to have a larger spread in Italy. If this arrives in the rest of Europe then they will absolutely cancel big marathons. E.g. Paris, London etc. I guess the next week or two will show if it can be contained in Europe.
In the US you have had no larger spreads yet so I am more hopeful for Boston happening.
Oh and IF it spreads to the US you are more than screwed. People having barely any sick leave (and in some cases none at all) forces them to go to work even when sick. It will spread like wildfire there due to the chronic workaholism you guys prescribe to.
Worked in the US for 3 years and once a sick colleague gave the flu to a ton of people. Imagine people like this with the Coronavius....
runningchick wrote:
We just started to have a larger spread in Italy. If this arrives in the rest of Europe then they will absolutely cancel big marathons. E.g. Paris, London etc. I guess the next week or two will show if it can be contained in Europe.
In the US you have had no larger spreads yet so I am more hopeful for Boston happening.
Yeah, a friend of mine has a trip to Italy planned for April and it got canceled.
We're all doomed. DOOMED I TELL YA.
Yes. it will slowly spread everywhere and sports events will be one of the first things to be canceled
Nature is conspiring against the Bekele vs Kipchoge race we've all been waiting for!
runningchick wrote:
Oh and IF it spreads to the US you are more than screwed. People having barely any sick leave (and in some cases none at all) forces them to go to work even when sick. It will spread like wildfire there due to the chronic workaholism you guys prescribe to.
Worked in the US for 3 years and once a sick colleague gave the flu to a ton of people. Imagine people like this with the Coronavius....
Just FYI, you have no idea what you're talking about re: sick leave in America. Ciao.
ATEA4RE wrote:
runningchick wrote:
Oh and IF it spreads to the US you are more than screwed. People having barely any sick leave (and in some cases none at all) forces them to go to work even when sick. It will spread like wildfire there due to the chronic workaholism you guys prescribe to.
Worked in the US for 3 years and once a sick colleague gave the flu to a ton of people. Imagine people like this with the Coronavius....
Just FYI, you have no idea what you're talking about re: sick leave in America. Ciao.
Just lived&worked in America for three years. But sure ok I have NO idea lol
I also hope these races won’t be cancelled, but if there’s no vaccine by then, they likely will be. It sucks, but at least we will get a deferral. What about all the other people who are hoping to run these races in 2021? Good luck getting in, if 30,000 people already have an automatic deferral.
runningchick wrote:
ATEA4RE wrote:
Just FYI, you have no idea what you're talking about re: sick leave in America. Ciao.
Just lived&worked in America for three years. But sure ok I have NO idea lol
Yes, you have no idea what you're talking about. That you can't see or acknowledge the limits of your ignorance is troubling. Anyway, please stop dispensing opinions about the US as if you know what you're talking about it, because you don't. For instance, do you know that we have different laws by each state (n=50), as well as federal laws, and that different employers have their own sick policies on top of that? And that all of this differs greatly by whether you're a salaried or hourly employee or whether you work for a for-profit or nonprofit company? I'm guessing no.
I didn't think Boston/London were in jeopardy until yesterday when the feds threw up their hands by telling us coronavirus is inevitable in the U.S. and that we should expect everything to get disrupted. I view Boston as 50/50 at this point, London even less likely, and agree that we'll be in wait and see mode until race week. I may sign up for Eugene as a backup.
ATEA4RE wrote:
runningchick wrote:
Just lived&worked in America for three years. But sure ok I have NO idea lol
Yes, you have no idea what you're talking about. That you can't see or acknowledge the limits of your ignorance is troubling. Anyway, please stop dispensing opinions about the US as if you know what you're talking about it, because you don't. For instance, do you know that we have different laws by each state (n=50), as well as federal laws, and that different employers have their own sick policies on top of that? And that all of this differs greatly by whether you're a salaried or hourly employee or whether you work for a for-profit or nonprofit company? I'm guessing no.
You are the one who has no idea what they are talking about. This is troubling, since it seems you live in the US. runningchick nailed it about people feeling pressured to work when sick or feel like they have no option, because calling in sick would mean a loss of a days pay.
ATEA4RE wrote:
runningchick wrote:
Just lived&worked in America for three years. But sure ok I have NO idea lol
Yes, you have no idea what you're talking about. That you can't see or acknowledge the limits of your ignorance is troubling. Anyway, please stop dispensing opinions about the US as if you know what you're talking about it, because you don't. For instance, do you know that we have different laws by each state (n=50), as well as federal laws, and that different employers have their own sick policies on top of that? And that all of this differs greatly by whether you're a salaried or hourly employee or whether you work for a for-profit or nonprofit company? I'm guessing no.
Yup, you told her.
JF wrote:
ATEA4RE wrote:
Yes, you have no idea what you're talking about. That you can't see or acknowledge the limits of your ignorance is troubling. Anyway, please stop dispensing opinions about the US as if you know what you're talking about it, because you don't. For instance, do you know that we have different laws by each state (n=50), as well as federal laws, and that different employers have their own sick policies on top of that? And that all of this differs greatly by whether you're a salaried or hourly employee or whether you work for a for-profit or nonprofit company? I'm guessing no.
You are the one who has no idea what they are talking about. This is troubling, since it seems you live in the US. runningchick nailed it about people feeling pressured to work when sick or feel like they have no option, because calling in sick would mean a loss of a days pay.
You're not good at reading. I don't work at Walmart. Maybe you do? She didn't nail anything but complete ignorance and widespread belief by Europeans that they know everything about the US and it's mostly bad. How do I know that? I lived in Europe for many years.
About 55% of the US workforce is hourly, the rest is salaried. Then there are the unions. But it's all so simple, right?
ATEA4RE wrote:
JF wrote:
You are the one who has no idea what they are talking about. This is troubling, since it seems you live in the US. runningchick nailed it about people feeling pressured to work when sick or feel like they have no option, because calling in sick would mean a loss of a days pay.
You're not good at reading. I don't work at Walmart. Maybe you do? She didn't nail anything but complete ignorance and widespread belief by Europeans that they know everything about the US and it's mostly bad. How do I know that? I lived in Europe for many years.
About 55% of the US workforce is hourly, the rest is salaried. Then there are the unions. But it's all so simple, right?
These ignorant people. What is this message board coming to? Thank goodness you're here ATEA4RE
So I currently live and work in the USA and have my entire life. I work a moderately important salaried job for a Fortune 500 company.
People come to work sick all the time. It's not just Walmart/McDonald's/other seemingly lowly jobs (where I bet people would skip more easily than the pressure in the 'business' world to always be available to work).
I doubt you have a good job if you have never felt the pressure to be available to work at all times. People work on vacation. People come to work with the flu. People dump their kids so they can continue to come to work.
It's disgusting and you are a total tool if you don't realize this. I guess we all know who will be the first person to infect his coworkers with the coronavirus.
Boston insurance wrote:
I didn't think Boston/London were in jeopardy until yesterday when the feds threw up their hands by telling us coronavirus is inevitable in the U.S. and that we should expect everything to get disrupted. I view Boston as 50/50 at this point, London even less likely, and agree that we'll be in wait and see mode until race week. I may sign up for Eugene as a backup.
I really hope they don’t wait until the week of the race to cancel!!! The earlier, the better.
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So I currently live and work in the USA and have my entire life. I work a moderately important salaried job for a Fortune 500 company.
People come to work sick all the time. It's not just Walmart/McDonald's/other seemingly lowly jobs (where I bet people would skip more easily than the pressure in the 'business' world to always be available to work).
I doubt you have a good job if you have never felt the pressure to be available to work at all times. People work on vacation. People come to work with the flu. People dump their kids so they can continue to come to work.
It's disgusting and you are a total tool if you don't realize this. I guess we all know who will be the first person to infect his coworkers with the coronavirus.
Moderately important....lol.
Simply read what I wrote. Please. I never said our system is any good or that workers don't feel pressure to come into work when they're sick or that people don't work on vacation. Of course all of that is true. What I said was that Americans do have sick leave. I currently have, like, 600 hours of sick time in my account...so, yeah, I have a good job (like, Super Important), and yeah, I don't take that much time off, because, of course, there is pressure not to. Does everyone have equal sick leave? No. Which is what I said.
FWIW, people with hourly jobs don't "skip" work more, because then they don't get paid anything. Almost all hourly jobs in the US have no paid sick leave. I said this. Do I think this is good? Of course not.
But my original point stands...Americans, many Americans (whether salaried or union) do have sick time (it varies, as I've stated), and rando Italian lady doesn't know what she's talking about. In particular re: coronavirus, some employers already have mandatory quarantine/work from home policies if they've been exposed through travel or otherwise. So, again, it's not so simple, and just saying "Boo, America bad" is stupid and almost completely ignorant. I mean, let's talk about labor laws, employee rights, unemployment rates, wages, benefits, taxes etc in Italy.