Thanks Ezrun for all the links. I am sure YMMV will study them.
The Paleo diet is a construct of some meat eaters from the 21st century. The main problem to reconstuct the cave peoples life is, that they didn't leave a diary or a facebook account. All we have are some bones from animals and some more bones from some cave people which you can analyze. And then there is the whole issue who interprets that data.
Stopwatcher wrote:
Dude, seriously. Are you really advocating that eating a bowl of sugar is healthy?
The Kenyan runners get 20% of their calories from straight white sugar in their tea.
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Ezrun wrote:
You're trying to naively simplify things.
Bottom line is eat a varied diet. Start with vegetables and then add meats and whole grains and everything else. In proportion of what works for you! And avoid artificial crap
You are as well. I generally agree with the safe approach of natural foods. Some 'artificial' things are very important for you. Medicines, for example. And obviously, some artificial foods can have better nutrients than 'natural' foods.
There is not much variety in some basic health principles. Sugar is terrible for you, for one.[/quote]
What do you mean by an artificial food that has better nutrients than a natural food
? There are artificial ingredients. Not sure what you mean by an artificial food.
There is processed food. And there are isolated ingredients. Can you give an example of this artificial food you're referring to?
Peter Zha wrote:
Stopwatcher wrote:
Dude, seriously. Are you really advocating that eating a bowl of sugar is healthy?
The Kenyan runners get 20% of their calories from straight white sugar in their tea.
Yeah, and so do the five obese kids that live on my block. What's your point?
Yeah, obviously when you're a professional athlete you can get away with eating more crap than the average person.
And clearly when you're a professional Runner your body is going to be able to utilize sugar better than the average person.
It doesn't mean it's ideal and it certainly doesn't mean it's ideal for the average person.
I wonder how their teeth end up after. 20-30 years of doing that I bet not as good as if they didn't.
This thread got WAY hijacked....
Back to the original topic, sounds like he follows a varied and common sense diet. If you are running that much, you are going to need a crap ton of calories. Sounds like he has a healthy vegetarian diet as a base. A beer with his pizza sounds like a great way to unwind and isn't going to make a difference. Checking on his weight and trying to eat more if it dips too low also seems like a common sense strategy.
I just don't get if the guy was all jazzed up on this extreme View. Wouldn't he bother to at least Google it?
I mean, I've studied Nutrition a lot over the years, but I've never specifically looked into when people began eating starches
But as someone else posted it kind of makes sense that if we eventually Began cultivating them. Obviously. They were part of our diet long before that.
Anyway, she's kind of funny cuz he was so sure of himself and had these Fringe. Studies to back it up, but there's tons of stuff you do a basic Google search from reputable sources And again, just the basic common sense that. Clearly if we began cultivating them they had to be being eaten before that.
Across wrote:
This thread got WAY hijacked....
Back to the original topic, sounds like he follows a varied and common sense diet. If you are running that much, you are going to need a crap ton of calories. Sounds like he has a healthy vegetarian diet as a base. A beer with his pizza sounds like a great way to unwind and isn't going to make a difference. Checking on his weight and trying to eat more if it dips too low also seems like a common sense strategy.
Compared to most thread the Meandering that took place of these topics were very tame.
Peter Zha wrote:
The Kenyan runners get 20% of their calories from straight white sugar in their tea.
Just because some uneducated Kenyan runners eat too much sugar that does not make it a healthy habit.
And if you eat that much sugar that won't make you as fast as them either.
Seven minutes of video destroys pages of garbage theory and disinformation:
YMMV wrote:
Seven minutes of video destroys pages of garbage theory and disinformation:
7 minutes of insurance that YMMV is not getting his meat this way.
If YMMV couldn't get his meat from his local grocer he would be toast.
Exactly! And where is this 20% coming from? You're telling me a guy. Who needs a 5000 calorie diet? Maybe more? Is getting 1000 calories from sugar. Which would be 250g. . No way. Is that right? That would be 62 teaspoonfuls. You're telling me they're having 62 teaspoonfuls of sugar everyday. Let's just all make up random s*** and post it.
Stopwatcher wrote:
Exactly! And where is this 20% coming from? You're telling me a guy. Who needs a 5000 calorie diet? Maybe more? Is getting 1000 calories from sugar. Which would be 250g. . No way. Is that right? That would be 62 teaspoonfuls. You're telling me they're having 62 teaspoonfuls of sugar everyday. Let's just all make up random s*** and post it.
Has to be true some guy posted on let's run. Makes sense. I believe that Kenyan Runners are eating. A little more than half a pound of sugar a day. I could see two Runners splitting a pound of sugar and one being pissed at the other when Bag can't meet their daily needs.
It's the inflammation, stupid!
And where in video. Did they discuss diet at various stages of human evolution?
Can you explain why people suddenly dedicated themselves to cultivating a crop which was poisonous to them? And which they had never consumed before. ?
How when you're brilliant theory about what ancient people ate did that happen?
Can you tell me how that makes any sense at all that all of a sudden people would start cultivating crops that they have never eaten before? And which was poisonous and had such a Negative nutrition.
You and the guy who thinks Kenyans eat 62t spoonfuls of sugar everyday should write a book together.
Eat more Tofu wrote:
YMMV wrote:
Seven minutes of video destroys pages of garbage theory and disinformation:
7 minutes of insurance that YMMV is not getting his meat this way.
If YMMV couldn't get his meat from his local grain-fed cattle rancher he would be toast. Or he gets out his 30-06.
FIFY
You're an idiot, dude!
Actually, you're beyond being an idiot because when you presented with mountains and mountains of information and evidence, you double down on your Dopey. Nonsense
Were you too dumb to do a simple Google search of a crazy Fringe Theory
And instead of actually trying to learn you just keep spouting your ridiculous theories
Diet comparison so simplified that even a B12-deficient, brain-fogged vegan can understand it:
https://runnersconnect.net/diet-of-kenyan-runners/Stopwatcher wrote:
Exactly! And where is this 20% coming from? You're telling me a guy. Who needs a 5000 calorie diet? Maybe more? Is getting 1000 calories from sugar. Which would be 250g. . No way. Is that right? That would be 62 teaspoonfuls. You're telling me they're having 62 teaspoonfuls of sugar everyday. Let's just all make up random s*** and post it.
The Archies wrote:
https://runnersconnect.net/diet-of-kenyan-runners/Stopwatcher wrote:
Exactly! And where is this 20% coming from? You're telling me a guy. Who needs a 5000 calorie diet? Maybe more? Is getting 1000 calories from sugar. Which would be 250g. . No way. Is that right? That would be 62 teaspoonfuls. You're telling me they're having 62 teaspoonfuls of sugar everyday. Let's just all make up random s*** and post it.
It says 20% comes from sugar and then it does talk about they love to put a lot of sugar in there. Tea but then they mention that a lot of it also comes from fruit in the same paragraph....
So I could see how you would make that mistake. But still if you think about it getting 20% of your calories from refined sugar is crazy. Clearly they were adding up everything including fruit. And they probably just added up all the calories in fruit and counted that.
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Sugar – plain sugar – accounted for 20 percent of daily calories. The Kenyans love their tea (in fact, tea consumption was greater than water consumption – 1.243 liters per day on average) and they love putting lots of milk and sugar in their tea. Having trained with some Kenyans myself, I can attest to just how much tea they drink and how much milk and sugar they use. It’s incredible.However, a large amount of this sugar also comes from fruits. Immediately after most runs, Kenyans consume some type of fruit, typically watermelon, cantaloupe and honeydew. The simple sugar and water from the fruit speeds glycogen to their muscles post workout.