Official CHEATERFLY body count thread

Don't forget Jordan Hassay among the body count

I really thought this thread was gonna be about how many people we’ve smashed who have worn vapor flys.......

The list is TWO runners long...?

Idk why you’d train in Vaporflys that I’ll agree on (no idea if they lead to injury). There seems to be a lot of obsession on a all levels on running maximum speed for your effort in everything from workouts to easy runs. Misplaced emphasis - just worry about running the right effort and get to the line healthy. Vaporflys are a road racing flat and should be deployed as such, yet I see a bunch of pros because they can using them all the time on the track, the grass you name it. Silly.

What about workouts? In that recent Colorado Springs video from Boworman, they're all wearing Next%. One athlete was wearing Alphaflys.

workouts at speed? wrote:

What about workouts? In that recent Colorado Springs video from Boworman, they're all wearing Next%. One athlete was wearing Alphaflys.

Yeah I was referring to it. I think it’s absurd. Especially on the track. Also saw them using them on the grass. That alone tells me there is too much obsession with hitting times. I think I saw Shelby wearing spikes. I probably respect that move though I find it unnecessary, at least you could argue she’s doing that due to grip. Almost all of them are track runners primarily so running in Vaporflys on a track makes no practical sense.

workouts at speed? wrote:

What about workouts? In that recent Colorado Springs video from Boworman, they're all wearing Next%. One athlete was wearing Alphaflys.

There is a chance all the Babes will make Olympic team .

1) Galen has had the degradation of his achilles since 2013

2) Jakob hurt his leg in the euro xc. Nothing to do with shoes.

Lol, speculation at best. I've been doing all my training runs in VF4% since last July and it's been amazing. I was even able to train through injured foot when i wasn't able to train in any other shoes

I do my sessions in them these days for two reasons; the first is that my legs are not as battered the following day which is great when you're putting in 100 mile weeks. The second is more practical, over the last two years I have bought three pairs, I don't really want to race in them once they have more than 100 miles on them, but at the same time, I don't want to throw a pair of shoes away that only have 100 miles on them.

Jake Robertson perhaps

OP is pretty dumb.

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all white people; are there any dark skinned people with the nykie cheaterfly 8% flu ..?!

Is there a particular reason why you needed to make this obscure post into a race issue? (Other than possibly being mentally deranged)

fly swot ter wrote:

Here we will list the pros who have been injured by using cheaterflys.

1. Galen Rupp. Nike’s golden child/ lab experiment. Seemingly impervious to injury for years, career basically over after cheaterfly use.

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I suspect you will be rethinking the "career basically over" part after Feb 29, 2020.

fly swot ter wrote:

For athletes with good mechanics like GR and JI, it’s introducing noise into a previously clear system. I predict it will damage more to come.

What about Rupp's toe-striking? Think I remember reading somewhere that that can hurt your achilles?

I know you are being over the top, but Rupp's injury has nothing to do with the 4%. Having struggled through Haglunds deformity it's not caused all of a sudden. This is a build up over many years of forefoot striking causing a bone spur that stabs your achilles every time you step. It is awful. For me it took 3 years to diagnose correctly and 2 years to recover from surgery. It is an awful injury that Rupp probably had the beginnings of 8-10 years ago.

One of the quickest ways for me to not take someone seriously is using the term "Cheaterfly."

Does it just relate to the VF - presumably the Zoom Fly (similar stack height and plate etc) would produce the same issues and is mainly marketed as a 'training' shoe? (train in the Zoom Fly and race in the VF etc).

My understanding is that because of the way the plate changes your foot's biomechanics, you're more likely to injure your plantar. Eric jenkins tore is plantar at pre last year and was maybe wearing the spike version.