No disrespect to Kobe Bryant but 9 people lost their lives but hardly a word about them in the media

There are stories everyday that are passed up. If your daughter was in a bar, for example, and a mad man ran in and killed 9 people and she was one of them, but so was a football player, and all the media talked about was him, nothing about your daughter, would you be mad? Let's show some respect for everyone involved.

no disrespect, but wrote:

There are stories everyday that are passed up. If your daughter was in a bar, for example, and a mad man ran in and killed 9 people and she was one of them, but so was a football player, and all the media talked about was him, nothing about your daughter, would you be mad? Let's show some respect for everyone involved.

Not necessarily true. Young, white, female victims get far more attention than anyone else. Case in point, the plane crash on the way to the recent bowl game - the pretty, young white sports journalist got 99% of the coverage.

This is not a reflection on her, but on a warped media.

no disrespect, but wrote:

There are stories everyday that are passed up. If your daughter was in a bar, for example, and a mad man ran in and killed 9 people and she was one of them, but so was a football player, and all the media talked about was him, nothing about your daughter, would you be mad? Let's show some respect for everyone involved.

Of course I would not be mad. I wouldn't care the slightest if my daughter's death wasn't receiving national media attention.

Where are your updates on all of the people that died yesterday?

Mal Content wrote:

no disrespect, but wrote:

There are stories everyday that are passed up. If your daughter was in a bar, for example, and a mad man ran in and killed 9 people and she was one of them, but so was a football player, and all the media talked about was him, nothing about your daughter, would you be mad? Let's show some respect for everyone involved.

Not necessarily true. Young, white, female victims get far more attention than anyone else. Case in point, the plane crash on the way to the recent bowl game - the pretty, young white sports journalist got 99% of the coverage.

This is not a reflection on her, but on a warped media.

Which is a reflection of society, if imperfect. POC who are abducted get rare mention, yet if someone white, especially affluent and female, goes missing it's big news. Wish it weren't that way but I don't have the ability to change it with a snap of the fingers. But again, few if any received the level of attention of OJ riding in the back of AC Cowling's white Ford Bronco. (Of course, that had everything to do with a murdered, pretty, white, affluent woman.)

Cheez wrote:

Slippery slope argument. Thousands of people died around the world yesterday as well and probably barely got a mention, if any. At what point will you be content with the mentions of everyone who parishes?

Journalists have always led with big names. That's what gets clicks. The entire world has followed Kobe from his entrance into the NBA in 1996 and has developed a world wide fanbase. Few people know who this other guy is. Had this other guy died in a car crash and Kobe wasn't there, the news article wouldn't have even made the front page.

No disrespect to him, but that's the reality.

I think we all know what "reality" is. The point of most people is to criticize "reality", which is celebrity worship.

I wonder if the passengers were covered by insurance by the helicopter company, and/or if lawsuits will be filed.

The Bryants are obviously going to be okay financially but we don’t know if the other families involved are as financially secure. The family of 3 (dad, mom and 13 yr old) leave behind a son (probably early 20s) and daughter (looks to be late teens. The assistant coach supposedly has 3 young kids. The other mom and daughter leave behind at least another son and father. Not sure of the pilot’s circumstances.

RIP to all those lost. This has made me extremely sad.

No gofundmes that I’m aware of yet.

bytch alert wrote:

What a fcking toad the OP is

Your inarticulate response is a problem.

It has been nearly 30 hours since Kobe Bryant, one of his daughters' and seven others died in a helicopter accident. The gist of O.P.'s thread is that all humans are equal. Kobe Bryant's millions of dollars did not protect him or lengthen his life. The gist of O.P.'s thread is that a famous 1/2 billionaire as was Bryant is no better than the rest of us and it looks ridiculous for others who did not know Bryant well to cry over Bryant as if his 40 inch vertical and Bryant's willingness to practice basketball two hours a day longer than his fellow N.B.A. players somehow made Bryant a good or great man.

Monarchies work due to unnatural fear and respect peasants have for king &/or queen. Necessary for capitalism to function is unnatural admiration and reverence for billionaires and 1/2 billionaires. Love for 300 plus pound orange man, Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer is similar. Capitalism's love for billionaires. I doubt those crying over Kobe Bryant are Bernie Bros. Maybe there are some lightly educated Bernie Bros crying over Kobe. If so, they need to learn.

Many/some are crying over K Bryant because what he was going to do with remainder of his life. He was going to go from a 1/2 billionaire to a multi-billionaire. Some say what blacks and others need are billionaire role models. No. U.S. needs fundamental policy changes. Fawning over kings, queens, billionaires and 1/2 billionaires is psychologically unhealthy and does not make the conditions under which peasants or working class exist better.

FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS.

The envy here is beautiful. All these posters who had dreams of changing the world when they were young, only to fail and live a miserable life. So they HATE celebrities and try to rationalize their irrational hatred by telling themselves celebrities aren't special. Unfortunately for you, celebrities are able to impact people's lives. If Kobe delivered a motivational speech, people would pay to hear it. If you flimsy Letsrun posters delivered the same or better speech, nobody would listen even if you paid them. Doesn't that just grind your gears?

Stay envious folks. It's not a good trait to have, but those who can accept it can change themselves for the better. Try being happy for someone else's success. You might find out envy is toxic and happiness for others is contagious.

If Kobe Bryant were not a multimillionaire at age 23 at the time of arrest, he would not have been given the option of making the crime victim a multimillionaire in lieu of criminal prosecution. The reason why over 90% of criminal cases are settled with plea bargain (and yes the civil case was part of the criminal plea bargain) is because prosecutors are mostly honest. Over ninety percent of individuals criminally charged are guilty.[/quote]

"Mostly honest." That's rich. They are elected officials that have more power than anyone in the criminal justice system. They are elected officials, so often times they do what will get them reelected.

You've made up your mind about what happened, so no point continuing arguing with you, but your premise is flawed.

Just glad that rapist kobe joined nixon, nancy reagan, barbara bush, scalia, ted kennedy, hitler, and all the other evil people in the eternal fires of hell. Hopefully he'll soon have the company of cosby, weinstein, the donald, dick cheney, oj.

rrrrrrr wrote:

If Kobe Bryant were not a multimillionaire at age 23 at the time of arrest, he would not have been given the option of making the crime victim a multimillionaire in lieu of criminal prosecution. The reason why over 90% of criminal cases are settled with plea bargain (and yes the civil case was part of the criminal plea bargain) is because prosecutors are mostly honest. Over ninety percent of individuals criminally charged are guilty.

"Mostly honest." That's rich. They are elected officials that have more power than anyone in the criminal justice system. They are elected officials, so often times they do what will get them reelected.

You've made up your mind about what happened, so no point continuing arguing with you, but your premise is flawed.[/quote]

You pulled up my post but you responded to another.

Made up my mind?

The criminal case due to negotiations with prosecutor, K Bryant's attorneys and crime victims attorney rolled over to civil court. KOBE BRYANT ADMITTED TO SEXUAL ASSAULT IN CIVIL COURT. Kobe Bryant admitted in civil court to raping the 19 year old hotel employee in Colorado. What are we debating? Kobe said in court he did it.

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rrrrrrr wrote:

If Kobe Bryant were not a multimillionaire at age 23 at the time of arrest, he would not have been given the option of making the crime victim a multimillionaire in lieu of criminal prosecution. The reason why over 90% of criminal cases are settled with plea bargain (and yes the civil case was part of the criminal plea bargain) is because prosecutors are mostly honest. Over ninety percent of individuals criminally charged are guilty.

"Mostly honest." That's rich. They are elected officials that have more power than anyone in the criminal justice system. They are elected officials, so often times they do what will get them reelected.

You've made up your mind about what happened, so no point continuing arguing with you, but your premise is flawed.

You pulled up my post but you responded to another.

Made up my mind?

The criminal case due to negotiations with prosecutor, K Bryant's attorneys and crime victims attorney rolled over to civil court. KOBE BRYANT ADMITTED TO SEXUAL ASSAULT IN CIVIL COURT. Kobe Bryant admitted in civil court to raping the 19 year old hotel employee in Colorado. What are we debating? Kobe said in court he did it.[/quote]

Could you link me support for the capitalized portion?

spade detector wrote:

no disrespect, but wrote:

There are stories everyday that are passed up. If your daughter was in a bar, for example, and a mad man ran in and killed 9 people and she was one of them, but so was a football player, and all the media talked about was him, nothing about your daughter, would you be mad? Let's show some respect for everyone involved.

Of course I would not be mad. I wouldn't care the slightest if my daughter's death wasn't receiving national media attention.

Where are your updates on all of the people that died yesterday?

So if the media went on and on about an NFL player and how he died in a bar your daughter died at too, you wouldn't care if they didn't say crap about her? Something is not right! To answer your question, if you are to single out one person in a tragedy, but say nothing about the others, well that is wrong, but thankfully today some media outlets are doing something about it today.

sbeefyk2 wrote:

The envy here is beautiful. All these posters who had dreams of changing the world when they were young, only to fail and live a miserable life. So they HATE celebrities and try to rationalize their irrational hatred by telling themselves celebrities aren't special. Unfortunately for you, celebrities are able to impact people's lives. If Kobe delivered a motivational speech, people would pay to hear it. If you flimsy Letsrun posters delivered the same or better speech, nobody would listen even if you paid them. Doesn't that just grind your gears?

Stay envious folks. It's not a good trait to have, but those who can accept it can change themselves for the better. Try being happy for someone else's success. You might find out envy is toxic and happiness for others is contagious.

1. I certainly didn't dream of "changing the world" I'm not a sjw loser.

2. You think playing hoops is "changing the world"? LOL

3. Normal, stable and successful people don't worship celebrities. It's pathetic.

no disrespect, but wrote:

spade detector wrote:

Of course I would not be mad. I wouldn't care the slightest if my daughter's death wasn't receiving national media attention.

Where are your updates on all of the people that died yesterday?

So if the media went on and on about an NFL player and how he died in a bar your daughter died at too, you wouldn't care if they didn't say crap about her?

To answer the question again, of course I would not care.

Holy Klatch, 4 pages in an no one has answered with the correct explanation.

1. Deaths are NOT supposed to be publicly announced before all immediate family members are notified privately. This is directly related to instances in the past where people have learned of deaths close to them through a publication and things turned out badly.

2. TMZ got in trouble with the police for violating this.

3. The information about the rest of the passengers will come out eventually, at least online or in places more local to LA.

Both the LA Times and Orange County Register have a feature story with the names and short biographies of all who died in the crash.

For those wondering about lawsuits, Kobe's estate may be a co-defendant. It is possible Kobe's accomplishment, fame, and money made it easy for Kobe to take risks, and accustomed to getting his way. I read a book by Norman Ollestad about his experience surviving a similar crash. It was not only the money that makes such trips affordable, but the past success in earning that money that leads to an attitude of risk taking. This may have led to the Chamberlain S. Dakota crash a number of weeks ago. So far, I have not seen any mention of this angle yet in the press, but it may come.

The husband of the basketball coach was on TV this morning, but there is very little about anyone else. I mean what about the pilot who flew the helicopter?

I see a lot people on Facebook and social media, posting about the baseball coach and the others, and nothing about Kobe Bryant deliberately because they are sick of nothing being said about the other 7 people, beside Kobe Bryant and his daughter. 7 lives is a pretty big deal. It would probably make the national news with out Mr Bryant and his daughter.