Will you be embarrassed next year when Nico Young beats you? Should all the juniors and seniors who lost to stud freshmen this year be embarrassed? Should a guy who took two years off of running be embarrassed if he isn’t the best in the country the year he gets home?
nofacetimber wrote:
Dyestat reader wrote:
https://www.runnerspace.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=44531&do=news&news_id=567831Based on this I don't think he's been running much. But give him 11 months until late November and he'll be alright.
I think you're right, Clinger has longer to get back in shape compared to others who get back from their missions in the summer so he could be coming around by then. One thing to consider though. Assuming he red-shirts indoor and outdoor track (very likely). Running next cross season would mean that Clinger would have used two years of cross eligibility before ever competing in track and field.
I think it makes sense to redshirt and then start indoor next year with 3 full years ahead of him.
Though come November, if Clinger can help the team contend for a national title it would be hard to keep him out.
Interesting how Mantz struggled after mission and was 15th on BYU team first race back after mission. A year later he is leading the NCAA Championship race. Shows that the missionaries do lose a lot of fitness while gone and it usually takes them awhile to get it back.
Speed Ratings Rot Your Brain wrote:
NicoNau wrote:
Anderson's NXN speed rating was 201, Nico's was 205. A point is worth 3 seconds so Nico would have run about a 14:45 in last years conditions.
Yet he ran 15:04 in last years conditions so no speculation necessary.
While I don’t fully believe in speed ratings like some of the freaks on here, I feel that it is worth pointing out that last year Nico Young was indeed a year younger than he is this year.
So should you wrote:
Will you be embarrassed next year when Nico Young beats you? Should all the juniors and seniors who lost to stud freshmen this year be embarrassed? Should a guy who took two years off of running be embarrassed if he isn’t the best in the country the year he gets home?
He has about a year to prep for NCAA xc. Spare me the sob story.
FrenchDawg wrote:
Speed Ratings Rot Your Brain wrote:
Yet he ran 15:04 in last years conditions so no speculation necessary.
While I don’t fully believe in speed ratings like some of the freaks on here, I feel that it is worth pointing out that last year Nico Young was indeed a year younger than he is this year.
So was everyone else currently alive that was also alive then.
Speed Ratings Rot Your Brain wrote:
FrenchDawg wrote:
While I don’t fully believe in speed ratings like some of the freaks on here, I feel that it is worth pointing out that last year Nico Young was indeed a year younger than he is this year.
So was everyone else currently alive that was also alive then.
Yes, and some of them were high school seniors, and now a year later they are unable to compete in high school competition because they are in college. Understand now?
Nico will be faster at first. Then Casey will catch up to him as he gets back into shape.
Crystal Ball Gazer wrote:
Nico will be faster at first. Then Casey will catch up to him as he gets back into shape.
agree-seeing Mantz's progression though he was a stud in HS also, it took him awhile-I see Nico ahead of him in 2020 NCAA cross at least...
Casey Clinger is nowhere to be found in the BYU Indoor Invitational Results. Don’t know what happened.
blamb61 wrote:Interesting how Mantz struggled after mission and was 15th on BYU team first race back after mission. A year later he is leading the NCAA Championship race. Shows that the missionaries do lose a lot of fitness while gone and it usually takes them awhile to get it back.It also shows that at least this guy wasn't using his two years to just train and eat sushi all day. Personally, I don't think they do train while on these missions and that's in talking to friends of mine that have done them.
Hahshhs wrote:
Liam Anderson ran 14:57 at NXN in 2018. Young only ran a few seconds faster than him in 2019 (14:52).
How did Anderson do this year at NCAA XC?
I love how you are comparing 2 completely different races....one with good conditions and one with absolutely horrible and muddy conditions. Yet you pretend like its an even comparison to compare times. Which shows you either didn't watch either race or you just really are dumb.
Then after you establish that are you are uneducated about what you are posting about, you ask us how Liam did at NCAA XC....a race that Liam did not participate in.
Last months the Nico Young fans were stating how this years class of seniors might be the best ever and that Nico Young is a generational talent, perhaps better than Ritz or Webb. If this is so then Young should finish top 10. Webb finished 11th and Ritz 4th in their freshman year.
Last months the Nico Young fans were stating how this years class of seniors might be the best ever and that Nico Young is a generational talent, perhaps better than Ritz or Webb. If this is so then Young should finish top 10. Webb finished 11th and Ritz 4th in their freshman year.
So to follow up on this thread before it's buried forever:
NCAA XC Championships
Conner Mantz 1st
Nico Young 4th
Casey Clinger 13th
US Olympic Trials 5000m
Conner Mantz 8th
Nico Young 9th
Casey Clinger 12th
PRs
Conner Mantz 3:37/13:24/27:41
Casey Clinger 3:38/13:24
Nico Young 3:44/13:24
Fantastic seasons by all of them. Each of them exceeded preseason expectations. The future is bright.
Siegfried and Roy wrote:
Clinger, and baby-face assassin Mantz , will both beat him.
Garnica and Shumway should be lower sticks as well.
Eyestone the Magician will figure it out.
“Baby-face assassin”…uhmmm, ok?
Mantz is a just a few years shy of being 30 years old. He should beat Nico because he has 9 or 10 years in him.
Luis, though, is probably only 21 or 22 and I expect him to beat everyone in the 5k next season at the NCAAs.
I read Mantz is 24. Wish I were that young, I'm in my late 60s-ran track 48 years ago. Once you get my age, you'll realize how foolish you sound.
Isn't Mantz like 25 years old and will only be a junior in eligibility this coming year since covid year didn't count towards eligibility? I thought he graduated high school in like 2015
stephen A smith wrote:
Isn't Mantz like 25 years old and will only be a junior in eligibility this coming year since covid year didn't count towards eligibility? I thought he graduated high school in like 2015
You again? Same amount of eligibilitiy as everyone else with a two year break in the middle of it without training.
tfrrs stalker wrote:
So to follow up on this thread before it's buried forever:
NCAA XC Championships
Conner Mantz 1st
Nico Young 4th
Casey Clinger 13th
US Olympic Trials 5000m
Conner Mantz 8th
Nico Young 9th
Casey Clinger 12th
Great season for all of them. Mantz also got 5th in the 10,000 Olympic Trials.
PRs
Conner Mantz 3:37/13:24/27:41
Casey Clinger 3:38/13:24
Nico Young 3:44/13:24
Fantastic seasons by all of them. Each of them exceeded preseason expectations. The future is bright.
tfrrs stalker wrote:
So to follow up on this thread before it's buried forever:
NCAA XC Championships
Conner Mantz 1st
Nico Young 4th
Casey Clinger 13th
US Olympic Trials 5000m
Conner Mantz 8th
Nico Young 9th
Casey Clinger 12th
PRs
Conner Mantz 3:37/13:24/27:41
Casey Clinger 3:38/13:24
Nico Young 3:44/13:24
Fantastic seasons by all of them. Each of them exceeded preseason expectations. The future is bright.
Meant to post this way:
Great season for all of them. Mantz also got 5th in the 10,000 Olympic Trials.
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