Dyestat Drama - Dudek ranked #1a and Tuohy ranked #1b

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So if people are actively posting just to get responses for money

They're literally working for like a couple of pennies an hour

It would honestly be the most unproductive way to make money like possible

Ewert?

REAL. wrote:

Dudek was the National Champion and 5th at European Junior XC.

That trumps Tuohy in 2019, no bones about it.

How is nobody talking about this? Dudek did not only win Nationals she also kicked ass internationally.

Guys are faster wrote:

Easy. Compare the girls to the guys. There was a larger gap at NXN than Footlocker. Pretty straightforward to look at the 2 races and conclude that the top 3 girls ran better at Footlocker.

and this matters why?

good lord, along with the silly name changes, you really say some of the most ridiculous things. In my opinion, you do nothing but diminish Dudek by trying inflate her tires with the most asinine comments...

soandsoandso wrote:

REAL. wrote:

Dudek was the National Champion and 5th at European Junior XC.

That trumps Tuohy in 2019, no bones about it.

How is nobody talking about this? Dudek did not only win Nationals she also kicked ass internationally.

And how is this more impressive than Tuohy running 2nd at Cub Nats?

YMMV wrote:

soandsoandso wrote:

How is nobody talking about this? Dudek did not only win Nationals she also kicked ass internationally.

And how is this more impressive than Tuohy running 2nd at Cub Nats?

Club nats was not a fast race. Aisling Cuffe’s best race has been a 15:55 track 5k in the past year and a half. If that race said anything, it’s that the semi-pros and pros running it are incredibly out of shape right now. It’s not surprising that Tuohy would take 2nd there considering she’s probably in 16:00 track 5k shape right this moment. Others just ran rather pitifully probably because everyone is thinking about the trials and not ready to be fit in December.

Eyeroll wrote:

Dumb move by dyestat.

Nope.

If you want clicks you've got to give them a reason to click. Look at the Rojo's and the ridiculous nonsense they post here.

It works!

Let's see where these girls are in 3 years and then debate. Who considers these races a good barometer for future performance?? How many footlocker or NXN winners have won NCAAs XC or 5k? Less than 10%

Y'all are getting into it over teenage girls cross country. How miserable are each of your lives?

It's just about the most exciting sport in the universe. So our lives would suck if we weren't talking about this

Seriously Katelyn Tuohy and girls high school running is where it's at. It's been a freaking Thrill Ride. Our lives would suck if we had to talk about anything else

Damn bro you can't appreciate. Only the best sport in the universe. Get it together homie

Atalanta wrote:

YMMV wrote:

And how is this more impressive than Tuohy running 2nd at Cub Nats?

Club nats was not a fast race. Aisling Cuffe’s best race has been a 15:55 track 5k in the past year and a half. If that race said anything, it’s that the semi-pros and pros running it are incredibly out of shape right now. It’s not surprising that Tuohy would take 2nd there considering she’s probably in 16:00 track 5k shape right this moment. Others just ran rather pitifully probably because everyone is thinking about the trials and not ready to be fit in December.

More exaggeration

asling cuffe signed with Saucony and is presumably in better shape and running better as of recently

Someone else in the field that Tuohy beat recently had a 15:30 5K according to letsrun.com

If anyone wants to bother to post the PR's of some of the girls that Dudek competed against in Europe then we can figure out how good that was. But really it's just the high school championship race of Europe so who knows for sure. I'm sure it's something analogous to the US if you include freshman in college so basically touhy would win in the US against anyone under 20 so it's not like it's that incredible or anything...

The top-3 at Euros U-20 have 5K PRs 16:01-16:09.

Macumber ran 15:30 this summer and Cuffe is clearly in that kind of shape. Look for that kind of 5K for Tuohy in 2020.

Pro-Dudek trolls go home davestated. She is good and on the rise, but not even close to Tuohy.

1b > 1a

Shanahan who finished 7 seconds behind Tuohy ran an indoor 15:26 the weekend before.

I like the more objective comments using race results, but I have to chime in with a subjective one.

Me thinks that Tuohy's sub-par NXN was due to the stress of the three-peat, no more and no less. That is my interpretation of her post race comments. But, she was going to do whatever it took to win, no matter what. And that includes the scenario that Dudek was in the race. Tuohy has greater talent than anyone in the race, and was not going to let anyone of lesser talent beat her in her final HS race.

Dudek has run just one race anywhere close to Tuohy. It looks like a 5th place finish in a relatively weak field at Euro's makes the case for Tuhoy, not Dudek.

But I am a Tuohy fan, and I admit my bias.

BSP

Loserville. wrote:

Y'all are getting into it over teenage girls cross country. How miserable are each of your lives?

Says the miserable loser reading/posting on a HS girl forum...

uh uh wrote:

The top-3 at Euros U-20 have 5K PRs 16:01-16:09.

Macumber ran 15:30 this summer and Cuffe is clearly in that kind of shape. Look for that kind of 5K for Tuohy in 2020.

Pro-Dudek trolls go home davestated. She is good and on the rise, but not even close to Tuohy.

+1a and +1b

Blazing Slow Poke wrote:

I like the more objective comments using race results, but I have to chime in with a subjective one.

Me thinks that Tuohy's sub-par NXN was due to the stress of the three-peat, no more and no less. That is my interpretation of her post race comments. But, she was going to do whatever it took to win, no matter what. And that includes the scenario that Dudek was in the race. Tuohy has greater talent than anyone in the race, and was not going to let anyone of lesser talent beat her in her final HS race.

Dudek has run just one race anywhere close to Tuohy. It looks like a 5th place finish in a relatively weak field at Euro's makes the case for Tuhoy, not Dudek.

But I am a Tuohy fan, and I admit my bias.

BSP

Completely agree with you BSP. Dudek is fantastic and only getting better. But Tuohy is on another level. She was very open about NXN ad the pressures she let get to her.

She has been incredible for the past 3 years in XC and track....her 15:37 5k indoor time would place her in almost any NCAA Champion race. The whole Tuohy vs. anyone arguement is ridiculous when looking at HS results. Who knows what happens at the next level, but it will be fun to watch.

Funny thing is, I was not a Tuohy fan previous to coming on this board. Nothing against her, just never really cheered for the favorites...but I couldn't get past all the criticism posted towards her on these boards. Most of the people doing it are just trolls looking to get a reaction....but still catches me off guard how many people are slagging a young highschool phenom female...don't really see anyone do it on the mens side, but maybe because no one guy is as dominant.