Fokker wrote:
I wore Next Percent's in my first marathon last month.
I broke them in with a couple tempo runs. They feel very strange at first, once you get going they feel great.
The marathon was a success, ran negative splits.
My legs and feet do feel weird after running in them, they make you plant differently than other shoes.
My legs were sore as f*ck after the marathon, well it was my first y'know, and I topped out my training at a mere 60 mpw.
Exactly! It takes some getting used to.
this is only true for the new balance 5280 and that is a road mile racing flat.
I think for maybe 8k & under you might want to consider something different than the next %'s. They're great for 10k-marathon but regular flats are gonna be lighter for shorter distances. Would be intrigued to see more data on this. I mean you saw Harvard clean up at regionals wearing them but then struggle at nationals (although the two don't necessarily have to be correlated).
in my opinion, the shoe you wear is not so much about the distance you run, but more about the pace you are running at. if usain bolt can somehow sprint a whole marathon without busting his achilles, there's no reason not wear his puma sprinter spikes.
as for the vaporflys compared to other racing flats, if you had two people of exactly equal speeds and put them in a 100m race, a person with Streak LT is obviously more likely to win than the guy wearing vaporflys because Streak LT performs better at higher speeds. in my opinion, what makes vaporflys so great is that they are "energy efficient", meaning that they will fatigue you less as you run at the cost of not being the speediest shoes you can wear. so when it come to your harvard example, correct me if i'm wrong, but that was a cross country race in the snow, correct? when people run in cold, snowy/rainny conditions, they automatically run slower due to instinct, safety, they're not as warm, etc. because they were running at slower paces, the benefit of vaporflys reaches or goes beyond the benefit of the Streak LT. i believe this to be the reason why they decided to run with vaporflys. they're harvard students after all; they probably made a pretty educated decision.
You wore the Next Percent’s what?
no you don't understand.
They are ruining distance running, even NCAA XC!!!!!111111
I tried them out for a track workout and they were underwhelming. Felt pretty much like my Peg Turbos. Boy, was I surprised how they sabotaged my marathon. They make you run differently, like bouncing on a trampoline, so they killed my calves and ruined my race. If I had worn my trusty zero drop light shoes that I have trusted for all my other marathons, I probably could have shaved 3-5 minutes off my time.
Forgot to mention how noisy they sounded. Clomp clomp clomp. They are also too shallow in the toe box, leading to cramps on the top of the feet.
ShilohDoesntCare wrote:
PR PR? wrote:
Also, I can't wrap my head around the concept of statistical tendencies. I truly believe that one anecdotal example can render loads of other data meaningless.
What? The exact opposite is correct.
Your response made his post funnier... did you really think he was being serious or were you purposely being his comic wing man?
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