Whiny wacko wrote:
Nice try loser!! Everybody plays by the same rules. Every teams athletes can go on missions or leave for military service. Look at their dedicated training and clean living instead of being a whiny biatch!!
The worst thing about this is the overuse of exclamation marks
Here’s a BYU early season training video where he talks a lot about issues facing returned missionaries. As he says, you don’t lose talent. Maturity and a great coach, as well as talent, are why BYU is continually successful. https://youtu.be/puqa2imMY80
Shawn H wrote:
Here’s a BYU early season training video where he talks a lot about issues facing returned missionaries. As he says, you don’t lose talent. Maturity and a great coach, as well as talent, are why BYU is continually successful.
https://youtu.be/puqa2imMY80
That was a cool workout video of a BYU training session produced by Flotrack I think? I wonder how warm it was? Gives a bit of insight into how a top program trains. Are there other videos out there like this by NAU, Iowa, and other top college teams?
Flotrack dude.
Flotrack rocks wrote:
Flotrack dude.
I'll wait for it to go to youtube. I don't want to pay for a flotrack subscription.
Bring ‘em Young wrote:
blamb61 wrote:
I don't find this statement offensive. It's at least a basis for discussion other that calling us a cult or something like that. Modern day Christian thought has it's roots based in ideas that were formulated approximately 400 years after Christ was on the earth. If you read the Bible, I believe it is easy to see that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ideas on God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are in conformance with the Bible and that orthodox Christianity is at odds with the Bible.
We believe they are three distinct individuals. There is tons of evidence in the Bible that supports that. To name just a couple:
Christ told Mary after he resurrected to not touch him because he had not yet ascended to His Father and God. - John 20:17
When Stephen was stoned, he saw Christ standing on the right hand of God - Acts 7:55-56
Christ said that he didn't come to do His will but the will of the Father many, many times. Christ prayed to the Father many times.
Luke 3:22 When Jesus was baptized a voice from Heaven stated, "Behold my Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased".
Hebrews 1:2-3 Says in the Last days God (the Father) spoke unto us by his Son, that he made the worlds through his Son, and that the Son is in the express image (of the Father).
There are hundreds more. Every time Christ prayed is a testimony that they are separate individuals.
If it’s so simple, why did Joseph Smith teach a trinitarian view of the godhead for several years after he organized the Mormon Church? Once he changed his views on the godhead, he changed the story about the vision he had. Originally it was one being that he saw. After his theology changed, his vision became two beings.
Joseph Smith did not teacha trinitatian view of the godhead after he organized the church. You should not be so ready to accept all anti literature you find out there.
https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Mormonism_and_the_nature_of_God/God_is_a_Spirit/Lecture_of_Faith_5_teaches_the_Father_is_%22a_personage_of_spirit%22#Question:_Did_Joseph_began_his_prophetic_career_with_a_.22trinitarian.22_idea_of_God.3FYes there is look it up on YouTube
Long tempo workouts, 2 hour long runs, about 100 mile weeks, and staying healthy = the keys to 10k success
blamb61 wrote:
Bring ‘em Young wrote:
If it’s so simple, why did Joseph Smith teach a trinitarian view of the godhead for several years after he organized the Mormon Church? Once he changed his views on the godhead, he changed the story about the vision he had. Originally it was one being that he saw. After his theology changed, his vision became two beings.
Joseph Smith did not teacha trinitatian view of the godhead after he organized the church. You should not be so ready to accept all anti literature you find out there.
https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Mormonism_and_the_nature_of_God/God_is_a_Spirit/Lecture_of_Faith_5_teaches_the_Father_is_%22a_personage_of_spirit%22#Question:_Did_Joseph_began_his_prophetic_career_with_a_.22trinitarian.22_idea_of_God.3F
Fairmormon once again leaves out relevant facts to make it seem like Mormonism is cut and dry. If you rely on Fairmormon to answer questions about problems with Mormon history and theology, you'll never be shown the whole picture.
Can you tell me why the original Book of Mormon had the following passages if Joseph Smith believed in the version of the Godhead that you claimed he did?
1830 version of the Book of Mormon: “And the angel said unto me, behold the Lamb of God, even the Eternal Father”
Current Version: (1 Nephi 11:21):“And the angel said unto me, behold the Lamb of God, even the Son of the Eternal Father”
1830 version of the Book of Mormon: “And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Everlasting God, was judged of the world.”
Current Version: (1 Nephi 11:32): “And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Son of the Everlasting God, was judged of the world.”
1830 Version of the Book of Mormon:“And he said unto me, Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of God, after the manner of the flesh.”
Current Version: (1 Nephi 11:18) “And he said unto me, Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of the Son of God.”
1830 Version of the Book of Mormon: “These last records … shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world.”
Current Version: (1 Nephi 13:40) “These last records … shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world.”
Bring 'em Young wrote:
blamb61 wrote:
Joseph Smith did not teacha trinitatian view of the godhead after he organized the church. You should not be so ready to accept all anti literature you find out there.
https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Mormonism_and_the_nature_of_God/God_is_a_Spirit/Lecture_of_Faith_5_teaches_the_Father_is_%22a_personage_of_spirit%22#Question:_Did_Joseph_began_his_prophetic_career_with_a_.22trinitarian.22_idea_of_God.3FFairmormon once again leaves out relevant facts to make it seem like Mormonism is cut and dry. If you rely on Fairmormon to answer questions about problems with Mormon history and theology, you'll never be shown the whole picture.
Can you tell me why the original Book of Mormon had the following passages if Joseph Smith believed in the version of the Godhead that you claimed he did?
1830 version of the Book of Mormon: “And the angel said unto me, behold the Lamb of God, even the Eternal Father”
Current Version: (1 Nephi 11:21):“And the angel said unto me, behold the Lamb of God, even the Son of the Eternal Father”
1830 version of the Book of Mormon: “And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Everlasting God, was judged of the world.”
Current Version: (1 Nephi 11:32): “And I looked and beheld the Lamb of God, that he was taken by the people; yea, the Son of the Everlasting God, was judged of the world.”
1830 Version of the Book of Mormon:“And he said unto me, Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of God, after the manner of the flesh.”
Current Version: (1 Nephi 11:18) “And he said unto me, Behold, the virgin whom thou seest is the mother of the Son of God.”
1830 Version of the Book of Mormon: “These last records … shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world.”
Current Version: (1 Nephi 13:40) “These last records … shall make known to all kindreds, tongues, and people, that the Lamb of God is the Son of the Eternal Father and the Savior of the world.”
Why would they need to change the Book of Mormon at all if the original came directly from God?
Since the discussion should be about age: one of my college buddies was adopted from Ethiopia. He said that they literally made up a birthday and age for him before he was adopted. He was supposedly “18” but he openly admitted that he was really like 22 or 23. He said that was the same for several other adopted Ethiopian runners in our region. My buddy was a solid runner, but even with the age advantage, he never won anything.
As far as being Mormon missions go, if you look at Utah Valley or Weber State, they also have lots of former missionaries and are mid tier programs.
How about instead of banning Mormons, Africans, or whoever, just go out and beat them!
They have a huge advantage from getting two year exemptions, not to mention using both redshirting and injury exemptions, as Carney had, to get much more mature runners. You have to add that they do get an advantage from the clean living, in comparison to a great many NCAA programs, where the coach's greatest headache is getting the athletes to get more sleep and do less drinking.
zxcvzxcv wrote:You have to add that they do get an advantage from the clean living, in comparison to a great many NCAA programs, where the coach's greatest headache is getting the athletes to get more sleep and do less drinking.Right, we need to require BYU athletes to go out and drink three times a week minimum so that they will be on equal footing with other teams. Is that what you are advocating?
Whiny wacko wrote:
Nice try loser!! Everybody plays by the same rules. Every teams athletes can go on missions or leave for military service. Look at their dedicated training and clean living instead of being a whiny biatch!!
Can* is the key word here.
At BYU with it's high # of American Taliban enrollment, it is the NORM. Systematic abuse of the rules, which in turn leads to an unfair advantage.
Jerry Maguire wrote:
Whiny wacko wrote:
Nice try loser!! Everybody plays by the same rules. Every teams athletes can go on missions or leave for military service. Look at their dedicated training and clean living instead of being a whiny biatch!!
Can* is the key word here.
At BYU with it's high # of American Taliban enrollment, it is the NORM. Systematic abuse of the rules, which in turn leads to an unfair advantage.
Please be civil both sides!
is it only byu who can do this?
john henry wrote:
is it only byu who can do this?
No, anyone and any school can do this. There are other schools that do this but not to the extent that it happens at BYU. You also don't see anyone complaining about BYU's football team having an "unfair" advantage. This is mainly because BYU football has been playing like crap lately.
FrenchDawg wrote:
Until they start restricting the amount of time missionaries can spend in competition, any victory they achieve will be hollow and meaningless.
Not to mention that they are Gods chosen, another major advantage.
Old jacks wrote:
The NAU team is actually older than BYU. So I guess they are out too.
ABDIHAMID
NUR Born in 1997
He is a “freshman” at age 22
Nur graduated HS in 2017. Anyone know how many years of eligibility he has left after this season?
Um. O wrote:
The simple fix is to come up with a new religion so all who desire can take two years off . It won’t be any more made up than any of the others
Ummm... ever hear of the Peace Corps? You don't even have to be religious! If it's such a big advantage to go off for 2 years, then every graduating HS'er should enlist in the Peace Corps.
Somebody should tell Parker Wolfe.
BYU Football wrote:
I sure don't hear anyone complaining about BYU's football team being older than everyone else. Perhaps that is because the football team at BYU is pretty crappy. Now if they were winning???
Say what?
They are actually a legit non power 5 juggernaut that could beat Alabama if they got lucky. They have a decent amount of nfl talent. I hope they make the CFP.