For Weeks, This Board Has Been Consumed By Mary Cain's Disturbing Accounts of Her Time Under Alberto Salazar ...

Baltsu wrote:

have others noticed that same people who are boycotting Nike now because of Mary Cain are those who are the most militant vegan runners? They are not willing to grow up and admit that s**t happens in sports and it's a cruel world if you want to be a top athlete. There have been much worse cases in gymnastics and figure skating where coaches are women. Of course coaches should treat athletes fairly but things like this happen every now and then.

Oh stop making up silly stuff. Who is boycotting Nike? Seriously, who is?...

My high school coach was a pole vaulter and my college coach was a 400IH hurdler.

ck3237 wrote:

My high school coach was a pole vaulter and my college coach was a 400IH hurdler.

The best head T&F coaches are former 400m/400mH men & women. They can obviously relate to sprinters and sprint coach. Sprinting speed is largely a combination of brute strength and neuromuscular coordination. Four-hundred metres athletes may have played youth sports such as Am. football, basketball and baseball with throwers. Four-hundred metres athletes occasionally compete against 400/800 athletes. Four-hundred metres athletes can relate to 800m athletes. Pole vaulters have the respect of sprinters, jumpers and throwers. My college coach was a 800/1500 man.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

Yes, typical Americans are going to feel more sympathy for a young, white, female victim, there's no doubt about that, but they're also very different issues.

Felix is a grown woman who made a lot of money off Nike and then didn't want to take a pay cut as she was nearing the end of her career. She wasn't even dropped, she just didn't like the terms of the new contract they offered her. Also, paid maternity leave is not a national policy in this country, so when a (previously) well-paid athlete says they aren't getting paid while they're pregnant, some people are going to say: so what? neither do (most) of the rest of us. Why didn't you plan ahead to have a kid, like we have to?

Cain's situation is naturally more sympathetic. And yes, she's white.

El Keniano wrote:

... even more than the circumstantial evidence that Salazar has been systematically doping Nike Oregon Project athletes for years which, in my opinion, is more serious. There's literally no room for other discussions. Why is this case? Is it cultural?

I want to emphasise that Cain's video for the New York Times is as powerful an indictment of Salazar's character as we're ever going to get and that I applaud her for her fortitude and bravery in sharing her experience finally liberating herself from that abusive relationship. But what about Salazar's actual crimes? Why has that been back-burnered? Would the reaction have been the same if, say Sifan Hassan, had been the victim? Is anyone going to deny, for example, that the American public and media get more concerned when a white (especially blonde) girl/woman goes missing than literally everyone else?

Things that make you go ?

Who are you?????

Nice way to drag race into this...........When it's not even a factor or issue in this situation.

AND....you need to go back to school and learn to spell....."emphasise"????? "back-burnered"???//

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SALAZAR IS GUILTY.

BUT THE RUNNERS ARE SNOWFLAKES.

BUTTHOLE SURFER wrote:

AND....you need to go back to school and learn to spell....."emphasise"????? "back-burnered"???//

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Way to jump on the one spelling mistake, if it was even that, and not a typo of hitting "s" instead of "z" in emphasize. "Putting something on the back burner" is a fairly common idiom, so seeing it in a slightly different form, in this case the past tense, "back-burnered," shouldn't be going over your head.

p9pospoaphj wrote:

BUTTHOLE SURFER wrote:

AND....you need to go back to school and learn to spell....."emphasise"????? "back-burnered"???//

:(

Way to jump on the one spelling mistake, if it was even that, and not a typo of hitting "s" instead of "z" in emphasize. "Putting something on the back burner" is a fairly common idiom, so seeing it in a slightly different form, in this case the past tense, "back-burnered," shouldn't be going over your head.

That's English spelling, which is prevalent in Britain, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand. So, El K is likely a posing Kenyan from one of these countries.

He's also a massive racist, disparaging white people wherever he goes. That's interesting - is he a non-white with an affinity for Kenyans, or is he a self-hating whitey married/living with black people because he suffers from a massive dose of self-hate (and/or failed terribly in the aforementioned countries he's likely to be from, but feels pretty successful amongst Africans?).

Interesting psychology either way.

Comparing Cain's and Felix's stories isn't exactly apples to apples. "Male coach physically and emotionally abuses female athlete" has a lot more spice than "Pregnant athlete loses athletic contract."

Or America is secretly racist and only cares about white girl problems.

Nothing wrong with my spelling, bro. And how nice of you to accuse me of dragging the elephant into the room, as if it hasn't been there the whole time.

facts and reason wrote:

Baltsu wrote:

have others noticed that same people who are boycotting Nike now because of Mary Cain are those who are the most militant vegan runners?

I'm boycotting Nike, and I'm not a vegan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCrUZuyZHykhttps://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nike-workers-pay-kaepernick

"That means Nike workers in Vietnam earned between $0.61 and $0.89 per hour in 2016, based on a working week of 48 hours."

https://www.hautetime.com/sunday-reads-san-francisco-49ers-quarterback-colin-kaepernick-x-hublot-photoshoot/58869

great post.

Nike pays Krapernick, Lebron, Mikeybaby combined 100 million for their "slave" contracts.

while the asian workers get criminally abused,

These aholess have no heart what so ever. and the pros are complying whoresss

And you dudes buy the shoes and the shirts, for the sake of god, you might as well wear a Nazi uniform.

Nike and Nazi, same same. as they say in Asia.

wow, you want to envy colincrapernick?

a confused individual, who will rot in hell.

be my guest.

meanwhile the real heros are the mothers that work 12 hours per day to support their kids.

it is the difference between real and fake.

good and evil.

ya, go for the blood money.

and see what happens, ... down the line.

go for it.

aren't you overlooking the fact that Kaepernick (please note the spelling) was more than willing to put everything he had on the line for what he believed? So he likes his luxuries. So what? He did what he knew what was right by taking the knee, over and over, regardless of how it would jeopardize his career, and wealth, and future.

Do you have half those balls? I doubt it.

So why don't you stfu? Okay?

To your other point, wealth disparity across cultures and even within is astounding and alarming. Yes, let's talk about that, but you are targeting the wrong guy if you pick on Colin K.