Is Ryan Hall back?

No proof he ever took testosterone. If he is on it, he could get a TUE.

His coach's plan -

1. Stop running

2. Start lifting and get huge to restore his T

3. Start running while lifting

4. Once plateaued, drop the lifting and the weight along with it in time for the 2020 Houston Half.

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nahdoe wrote:

He did what he did, then his body had the big hurt, so now he vibing

This is pure nonsense

I believe he had a Lo T issue.

He should enter women's events. Keep his block and tackle, and take advantage of this window of crazy political correctness.

Perhaps even take the Marathon record.

Anyone get their DVD yet?

You're just a jealous letsrun poster that has never accomplished anything. There's no way 40 pounds is equivalent to 40 minutes over a marathon.

Whether or not Ryan is “back”, this is inspiring! I’m happy to see he’s found the itch again, and is making a return to running on his own terms. Do what makes [/b]you[/b] happy Ryan!

Typical Letsrun poster wrote:

You're just a jealous letsrun poster that has never accomplished anything. There's no way 40 pounds is equivalent to 40 minutes over a marathon.

I agree that I have never accomplished anything, but I am a Hall fan not a jealous poster. In the words of former Hall coach/adviser Jack Daniels (from a 2006 thread):

"I typically calculate 2.7 sec per mile per pound of unnecessary tissue that you lose. It will vary with your ability level, but you have the idea -- (1) multiply your VDOT times your body weight in kg (pounds X .454 = Kg). (2) This will give your an absolute value for estimated VDOT (3) subtact the anticipated weight loss from current weight and (4) divide the new (lighter) weight into the Absolute VDOT value that you got in #2 above. This will give you a new VDOT to use for calculating performances. Naturally, the catch is that you must be getting rid of body mass that is not useful to your running. If you try to lose too much to make these mathematics look even better, you will start to lose muscle mass and the absolute VDOT value will decrease as fast or faster than the body mass is reduced and VDOT used for determining performances will not be to your liking."

Using Daniel's formula, a forty pound gain of unnecessary tissue would add 47 minutes to a marathon. However, some of Ryan's weight gain might help him in some ways so the effect may not be as drastic.

God told him to run. So he ran.

since hall is all bulk and whatever, why not just move back to middle distance as a sub elite athlete? his marathon days are over and too unhealthy for him to even try again

His low T may have come from his diet. He got completely man-o-rexic towards the end of his career and looked awful. Weighing as little as he did it's no shock he had chronic fatigue. Once he starts putting on weight he suddenly feels better. For as well as Sara is running her husband is kind of a dolt.

TUE wrote:

Butofcourse wrote:

Wouldn’t be that difficult at all to drop the majority of that weight. Muscle leaves just like fat leaves, especially if you’re running 100+ mile weeks.

Any way he could toe the line at the OT marathon? Not that I think he would but if he wanted to is it even possible through some sort of invitation?

I thought he took testosterone for overtraining after he retired. Surely that would exclude him from contention in professional running.

In response to this clown, and a couple of others, Hall never took testosterone or had clinically low testosterone. It was just on the lower side of normal, which is unexpected in an athlete. Don't think his weight training has changed that much, probably just genetic.

all that weight training is godliest he's ever done

No

RGARC2 wrote:

Sara Hall’s IG post indicates he’s training again. I’m not sure if he’s just running more and lifting less or really running to get in competitive/professional shape. Whatever the case, it would be fun to see him on the roads again.

Wonder if he came to the realization that it's way better to be trim and fit than to be bulky.

I've been, I won't say to both extremes, but I got up to where I did 385/295/450. Went from about 62kg/135 lbs to 80kg/175 lbs. I will say the extra frame size was nice from a leadership sense and in dealing with guys. It made a very minimal difference with women. The extra strength was rarely noticeable, there are very few times in life where you really need that kind of strength. Skinny me never struggled with a daily task or had strength issues in daily life.

What I noticed big time was the fitness difference and lugging the extra weight. I was sluggish and slow. I lost the sense of infinite energy I had, like I couldn't tire myself out (unless I did a hard training session). I still felt fine, it's like I was fatigued, but I was noticeably lacking in energy, and the day to day effort of things was increased enough to be noticeable. I also just didn't feel as good, sleep was a little worse, worse digestion, etc. All of this was subtle, but significant. It sucked to go on hikes and be breathing a bit up hills hiking with friends or feel fatigue after a day of being on my feet all day.

So, I gradually switched back to a much higher running balance. Sit around 67kg now, and am pretty happy there. Still gym 1-2x because I do think their is value in maintaining strength /muscle as one gets older, but also more running. The only thing I really miss is the training, I found powerlifting to be quite enjoyable, but it's not all that exciting when you're not eating to support gains and know you aren't going to see improvement.

Bottom line, I didn't see any real perks to being stronger and bigger, aside from an increased presence in conversations, especially with guys. Perhaps this is different if you had a really physical/heaving lifting job, but there just aren't tasks in life that you do that are especially strength tasking, and the difference with women was so marginal as to be more or less irrelevant.

The biggest thing I came out of it thinking is "Damn, it must be so rough being a 'normal' person. Here I am still within healthy BMI, jogging 3x - 4x a week with a decent engine, and I feel more tired than I like to. I can't imagine how difficult things would seem being the 'average dude' at 195lbs and rather sedentary."

I don't know what your freshman training experience was, but mine involved 85-90 mile weeks! With at least 2 doubles a week and often a 100-120 minute long run. Soooooooo......

LM wrote:

The biggest thing I came out of it thinking is "Damn, it must be so rough being a 'normal' person. Here I am still within healthy BMI, jogging 3x - 4x a week with a decent engine, and I feel more tired than I like to. I can't imagine how difficult things would seem being the 'average dude' at 195lbs and rather sedentary."

Oh, it sucks. I was that guy. And I know guys like they now--they sleep all day and night. Sleep ten hours every night, take a nap at 1pm until 5pm on Saturday. Or take a nap when they get home at night.

Just curious.. how tall are you?

Predict 2:30 give or take a minute.

You know he wants to run in those shoes.