Sara Hall’s IG post indicates he’s training again. I’m not sure if he’s just running more and lifting less or really running to get in competitive/professional shape. Whatever the case, it would be fun to see him on the roads again.
Sara Hall’s IG post indicates he’s training again. I’m not sure if he’s just running more and lifting less or really running to get in competitive/professional shape. Whatever the case, it would be fun to see him on the roads again.
He's been doing some light tempos, but I don't think it's anything like an elite level. He's pretty much doing college freshman running while still lifting a fair amount.
It is probably getting him in pretty good shape though, he could probably surprise and run under 2:20 again or possibly even 2:15 if he really cared, but he'll never be near his 2:04 again or even under 2:10 after taking so much time off and getting older.
No. He's not back. He's much heavier than he used to be. Probably just for fun/health.
Oh he is back ! With a vengeance!!
It was only a matter of time for someone so competitive. He has been focused on lifting for years, yet he can walk into thousands of gyms across the country and find half a dozen dudes at each gym that are stronger than him. That's tough to swallow when there used to be nobody in the country better than you.
Hot Takes wrote:
He's been doing some light tempos, but I don't think it's anything like an elite level. He's pretty much doing college freshman running while still lifting a fair amount.
It is probably getting him in pretty good shape though, he could probably surprise and run under 2:20 again or possibly even 2:15 if he really cared, but he'll never be near his 2:04 again or even under 2:10 after taking so much time off and getting older.
Hall ran 1:50/3:40 as a college freshman.
Peak4thaTROT! wrote:
Hot Takes wrote:
He's been doing some light tempos, but I don't think it's anything like an elite level. He's pretty much doing college freshman running while still lifting a fair amount.
It is probably getting him in pretty good shape though, he could probably surprise and run under 2:20 again or possibly even 2:15 if he really cared, but he'll never be near his 2:04 again or even under 2:10 after taking so much time off and getting older.
Hall ran 1:50/3:40 as a college freshman.
Think generic college freshman, not one of the best runners in the world. He could probably still drop a 3:50 1500 right now if he needed to, surely under 4:00.
I disagree
If he trained seriously again (100+mpw) he has the talent to go sub 2:10. He’s not even 40 yet and there’s a 43 year old that ran 2:08.
He did what he did, then his body had the big hurt, so now he vibing
it's time wrote:
It was only a matter of time for someone so competitive. He has been focused on lifting for years, yet he can walk into thousands of gyms across the country and find half a dozen dudes at each gym that are stronger than him. That's tough to swallow when there used to be nobody in the country better than you.
I believe with time off he can find the fire again, as well as build some serious strength. Hearing him reflect on his running days, it sounds like he could approach it differently as well.
But let's say he did some back to pro running in some form.. he's 180lbs now and was racing back in the day at 135~140lbs. Even if he wanted to get down to 150, is that possible? People can lose fat reasonably quick if they're dedicated, but is muscle that easy to lose?
He’s run a legit 2:06 wrote:
He’s not even 40 yet and there’s a 43 year old that ran 2:08.
And there's a 47 year old that ran 2:01.39.
Wouldn’t be that difficult at all to drop the majority of that weight. Muscle leaves just like fat leaves, especially if you’re running 100+ mile weeks.
Any way he could toe the line at the OT marathon? Not that I think he would but if he wanted to is it even possible through some sort of invitation?
Butofcourse wrote:
Wouldn’t be that difficult at all to drop the majority of that weight. Muscle leaves just like fat leaves, especially if you’re running 100+ mile weeks.
Any way he could toe the line at the OT marathon? Not that I think he would but if he wanted to is it even possible through some sort of invitation?
I thought he took testosterone for overtraining after he retired. Surely that would exclude him from contention in professional running.
UA Runner wrote:
it's time wrote:
It was only a matter of time for someone so competitive. He has been focused on lifting for years, yet he can walk into thousands of gyms across the country and find half a dozen dudes at each gym that are stronger than him. That's tough to swallow when there used to be nobody in the country better than you.
I believe with time off he can find the fire again, as well as build some serious strength. Hearing him reflect on his running days, it sounds like he could approach it differently as well.
But let's say he did some back to pro running in some form.. he's 180lbs now and was racing back in the day at 135~140lbs. Even if he wanted to get down to 150, is that possible? People can lose fat reasonably quick if they're dedicated, but is muscle that easy to lose?
A 30 lb weight drop? He would definitely have to quit lifting and go on some crazy diet to get down to 150 let alone his old racing weight. FWIW, he looks better than ever at his current size.
I read he’s planning to pace Sara to a 68 half marathon PB.
I saw him running earlier this year while in Michigan. Big, yes, but just floating along.
Ryan Hall is back, baby!
I mean....is Ryan Hall back, baby?
Runner's World article on Ryan's return to running:
https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a29860884/comeback-for-ryan-hall/
He wants to get in 2:18 shape again to pace Sara while continuing to lift weights. If he really gained 40 pounds of muscle and does not plan to lose any of it, based on the rules of thumb about the effect of excess weight and performance, he should not be able to come close to 2:18.
I have heard rules of thumb stated to be 2 seconds per mile per pound or 1 minute per pound in a marathon.
UA Runner wrote:
it's time wrote:
It was only a matter of time for someone so competitive. He has been focused on lifting for years, yet he can walk into thousands of gyms across the country and find half a dozen dudes at each gym that are stronger than him. That's tough to swallow when there used to be nobody in the country better than you.
I believe with time off he can find the fire again, as well as build some serious strength. Hearing him reflect on his running days, it sounds like he could approach it differently as well.
But let's say he did some back to pro running in some form.. he's 180lbs now and was racing back in the day at 135~140lbs. Even if he wanted to get down to 150, is that possible? People can lose fat reasonably quick if they're dedicated, but is muscle that easy to lose?
I had a pretty similar arc to Ryan Hall -- albeit he would beat me by like nine hours in any race -- but I was 135-140 at race weight, got injured and couldn't run, coped by lifting and getting into other forms of fitness, and went up to 175-180. I am 145-150 now that I am back into running. It was not easy to lose, but it's not really hard. For a guy like Hall, it was probably pretty tough for him to gain weight in the first place. That was way harder than the losing it has been.
He should just casually start messing around with mountain trail races and ultras and see what happens.
I think he's been training the last few years for a pump and run.