Unnamed NOP pro on Mary Cain- “she’s such a wuss.”

wejo wrote:

[quote]Good point wrote:

You say she can run low 4s in her mid twenties. That however won’t cut it as a top notch pro. Nike won’t sign you to a 7 figure deal to do that. If that’s the runner she is she should most definitely gone to college.

What about Alexa Efraimson? How would you classify her?

Koko seems to have steadily improved but her body type is different . Obviously experiences may be very different and maybe that is one big takeaway people should have.

Claudia Lane chose a very different path by going to Dartmouth this year.

i'm not sure if breaking the 1500m wr as a male would get you a 7 figure contract. this is a niche sport and 90% of the people who buy gear are hobby joggers who could care less.

anyway, i wouldn't be surprised if it's rowbury. she's one of the remaining nop defenders and her old coach john cook has disowned her. to be successful at that stage, you have to be a little psychotic and selfish, so it doesn't surprise that most of mary's teammates lacked empathy. the nop rarely ever felt like a team anyway.

Limit Age for Women Going Pro wrote:

I think Rojo believes that women should not be allowed to go pro until women have broken through some undefinable barrier or age when they are capable of actually behaving and training like a professional.

Should a first round draft QB in the NFL be allowed by "they" to let him stay at the same as level they were for many years before "they" actually get serious about evaluating their performance. Is this what you mean Rojo? Are you saying women should be treated differently than men? That seems a bit sexist.

Makes sense for him, considering he thinks college runners need to win an NCAA title before they go pro.

I agree; doesn't seem like there is any real team structure besides Julian's group. Just look at how Engels essentially threw all of Alberto's people under the bus, Hassan was obviously pissed about that. Also; Centrowitz openly stated in an interview the allegations were all Galen/Alberto. So..no shocker if someone on the team did make that comment.

A teammate very easily could have told Mary what Shannon texted. It was very normal to talk to people and say "omg i texted so and so this, "blah blah blah' "

Especially when they're complaining about someone.

She's right though, just saying. Cain was making a lot of money. People seem to be think NOP was some type of day care facility for the mentally fragile.

Limit Age for Women Going Pro wrote:

I think Rojo believes that women should not be allowed to go pro until women have broken through some undefinable barrier or age when they are capable of actually behaving and training like a professional.

Should a first round draft QB in the NFL be allowed by "they" to let him stay at the same as level they were for many years before "they" actually get serious about evaluating their performance. Is this what you mean Rojo? Are you saying women should be treated differently than men? That seems a bit sexist.

N.F.L. insists athletes attend college for three school years before being eligible and/or age 20. Think back to circa 2003 and Maurice Clarett.

it's clear from videos in 2014 that mary's "teammates" weren't too pleased to be sharing the track with a teen. as someone else pointed, in that "best race/workout combo of your life" video, jordan is very clearly pissed about losing to mary and scowls for most of the workout. it's not surprising to me that some of her teammates probably relished a bit once she started to fail and were unsympathetic to her struggles.

anyway, alsal never struck me as someone who really believed in team environments.

Some one needs to interview Cain and ask her why she stayed so long. Also why did she try to rejoin the group.

Anyone know what she was making in $ compared to rest of the group?

For those who think this is an issue of sexism and that Cain is being judged unfairly because she is female, imagine if a similar story came out about Kobe Bryant in his rookie year. Imagine if some sportswriter discovered that teenage Kobe disrupted Laker's practices and made the team wait for him while he took breaks in the middle of drills.

Do you really think Kobe, as a male, would be judged less harshly? I don't. In fact, I think he'd get raked over the coals and called a prima donna and a self-centered twatwaffle. And I definitely don't think his teammates would catch flack for getting fed up with the whole thing.

Found actual footage of Mary and how she learned of Shannon’s text.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5Ayrr2FSQt/?igshid=1rcvclunqepzv

Jeff Albertson wrote:

I’m hoping it was Rowbury. She’s got moxie and races like a warrior. Once and always a fan.

Dude, Rowbury spent her entire prime fixated on Jenny Simpson. She keyed off her in every race. Did she win? Did she medal? Who cares! As long as she beat Jenny, she was happy. Weak mentality.

I think the lesson here is Rowbury has the heart of a champion

ohsarcasm wrote:

Narcissistic signs wrote:

Classic signs of narcissism include not being able to handle criticism in a normal manner, blaming failures on others and taking solace in bringing other people down. The root of narcissism usually begins relatively early in life but gets expressed later in life. Mary has all of these signs.

Okay, I get it. Sarcasm.

Anyway, a woman who is blind to the suffering of a teenage girl (teammate) who's alone all by herself with her family on the other side of the country and also complains about having to be late for a nap as if she's personally being put upon, that sounds like a narcissist.

Mary's parents were blind to this , and it is the parents responsibility . 100% of an elites athletes responsibility is to look after themselves , just like what Kara did .

What's TUES stand for?

Drama Queens wrote:

Women's running is becoming a soap opera. What a shame.

Am I the only one who thought the Simpson/Rowbury love-fests were a bit over the top? All that talk of them being BFFs? Did anyone believe Simpson when she said Rowbury was the better runner?

ck3237 wrote:

What's TUES stand for?

Therapeutic Use Exemptions aka AlSal cream.

The usual excuses

Face Farter wrote:

A teammate very easily could have told Mary what Shannon texted. It was very normal to talk to people and say "omg i texted so and so this, "blah blah blah' "

Especially when they're complaining about someone.

So it was a whistleblower? That's why I always employ the cone of silence when making denigratory statements about associates.

So... don't read people's text messages over their shoulder!

Shannon or whoever has a right to complain to her husband in private, same as anyone else.