Guelph Implodes

Bullying? I don't see it. But I can see how some would take his actions as crass. I was on that end of it from his program, but it was warranted. He was a coach of a national ranked team, not your friend, dad, or therapist. And if your actions were affecting the group, he would see to it to try and get you to shape up or get out.

Ran for Dave for 8+ years. When I stopped, it was due to my own tardiness and lack of respect for the program. Long story short, I showed up to practice late, (again) and he had enough. He wouldn't give me the workout, the team was still warming up, but I was 15 min late. I can see how at the highschool level or even early University years he would cater to it, but I was a post collegiate, and suppose to set an example for others. I was an adult, running in an elite group and he treated me fairly as I was affecting the direction of the group. It wasn't much later when I stopped running as I new it was time for me to move on. At the time, I didn't see it and was mad as hell at him for it. But now a few years later I can see that he was right.

So to those that are calling out Dave for bullying, honestly ask yourself what Dave did to you due to your own disrespect for the program and failure to act like an adult? Were you taking more from the program than you were giving to it? It was an elite team, not an individual based program, and all actions of an individual could affect the direction that the team was going. If someone was pulling it in a different direction, Dave, as a coach, would have to steer the ship back on course. Which could mean cutting the anchor.

As much as I didn't like him at the end of my years with SR, I do look fondly of the memories I had running with him and the group.

Of course there are decisions I am sure he has made that may have been seen as un-empathetic (if that is a word?) or crass, but from all the examples I have heard in the past, they could be argued as decisions he made for the betterment of the team. He was not a therapist, he was a coach, and a damn good one. He pushed me more than any other coach in the past and it is hard to read these hearsay, lynching stories on this message board, without feeling that the treatment of this person is unwarranted (unless there are stories that have not been said).

There is due process, I am sure all the reasons for his leave of absence will be posted once the investigation is complete. Please give it time before you start jumping to conclusions.

Which doesn’t explain why even Guelph’s own statement is deleted. I call bvll$hit.

M brown

I wouldn't be surprised if it was this. I was involved with the program 5-10yrs ago and saw many many examples of this. I know someone who was told they could have an AC job that wasn't public yet and that DST would make sure the job was in Guelph for them. Just one of many examples I'm sure. None of this is secret to any of the full time coaches and most benefited from and aided in it. As many have noted, no way you could speak out, whether you were an athlete, volunteer coach or paid coach, your career in that field would be greatly hindered.

My view is that the people that don’t like Dave don’t like him for valid reasons - he is tough at times, he knows how to use the system to advocate for him and his club, and he can play favourites.

However, I don’t think the investigation is going to find actionable bullying, corruption or metoo.

That said, his career is ruined now regardless.

its nice of him to decide whats in our best interest

Wet Coast wrote:

So Canadian Running Magazine just published a short article indicating that the University of Guelph is investigating:

https://runningmagazine.ca/the-scene/university-of-guelph-track-and-field-program-under-review/

Noticing that even Canadian Running won't identify their authors relating to DST articles. AC won't investigate itself as well..

jesseriley wrote:

Which doesn’t explain why even Guelph’s own statement is deleted. I call bvll$hit.

Guelph's own statement is "we have no statement." Seems fair to delete. It would just encourage people to make guesses about what's going on. Doesn't offer any answers.

“No comment, but that’s off the record”?

I guess everyone involved is an infant & even their lack of comment has to be private & secret. For our own good, of course. Not to protect the guilty, of course not.

What credible accusations of assault and corruption? Are we talking about the same person, DST, or are you talking about Trump?

There are many good reasons to keep these investigation private until they complete. Including but not limited to protecting the any potential victims. I don't see any benefit to having public discussion when there is little to no information on what is going on. It will only lead to speculation and slander. If people have accusations and that they want to make them public they should reach out to credible news sources and tell there story.

Nice to see Trackie has a thread now....Lets see how long it lasts.

Ill be we never seen any anonymous postings in the thread... unlike every other trackie discussion.

It’s a start. Maybe the silence was too obvious.

trackie is not the spokes person for canadian athletes . IF AC is buying ads , they will protect everyone at AC and DST.

DST needs to come on here and speak....

SPEAK NOW OR ITS OBVIOUS HES GUILTY, what u got to hide?

jesseriley wrote:

It’s a start. Maybe the silence was too obvious.

Whose silence? Trackie's? It's a race registration and results hosting website, not a news organization. The forum is an inconsequential part of the site that they probably don't even care about. They don't have any obligation to talk about something, even more so when there's NO actual legitimate information out there. So is this an "obvious" silence because there was nothing to say?

But yes. They're totally in Guelph's pocket, for sure, it definitely makes sense to silence one small website because news about a scandal won't get out on literally hundreds of other actual news platforms, or the much larger forum that many more people use. And the moon landing was faked.

So they’re deleting threads on a forum they don’t care about?

Yes? As opposed to what, allowing what is, as far as they know, libel to be published that they are then responsible for? They likely care about that.

So why are they now allowing a thread?