Snowflakes win again? DI Northeast regional XC championships is changed to road race because it snowed

could be vaporflys?

a former runner of mine tells me he talked to a kid that had it .04 short.

So was possibly something like 100 meters to 150 meters short. So like 15 to 25 seconds? Maybe even 30?

How many school records fell today and runners hitting personals best never to be equaled.

Not right wrote:

How many school records fell today and runners hitting personals best never to be equaled.

It was definitely short but what else do you guys expected. Everyone is in peak shape racing for a shot at nationals. Everyone was in full send mode. You then put that effort on a pretty much flat course. What do you want them to run 31 min every other region runs on freaking pristine surfaces and run fast not much different.

It's called rushing to judgment when you don't have near enough information about the situation. Especially when you run a website that you would like people to take seriously. That's the problem.

A Horse of COURSE wrote:

Here are the courses!

https://twitter.com/USTFCCCA/status/1195033118496788481

My god U of Buffalo, build a parking garage.

wejo wrote:

wtfrojo wrote:

Thank god you waited to contribute to the conversation until you found all this out. Oh wait, your post complaining about how this is a disgrace is still up on page 1....

+1

Well done.

Hey Northeast officials.....ever heard of a place called Van Cortlandt Park?

It never snows in NYC (until December).....just sayin'

Van Cortlandt Park can always be the BACKUP PLAN ---- as it rarely snows in NYC in November.

AND............NYC area has enough hotels if they do make a

last minute switch in locating to the Bronx.

AND........... the NYC schools (Manhattan, Fordham, Iona, Marist, Columbia,) wouldn't need the hotels as those schools are within an hour of Van Cortlandt.

AND............. you run the meet on the Saturday as opposed to the Friday...........which gives another day to travel.

AND......... you run the meet at 1:00 p.m. to give the hotel stayers a little extra time to get to the park.

Gotta have a plan, dudes and you have to respect the weather forecast. No shame in moving location.

Oh, you can always run the meet on a Sunday if you need the extra travel time.

high school xc coach wrote:

a former runner of mine tells me he talked to a kid that had it .04 short.

So was possibly something like 100 meters to 150 meters short. So like 15 to 25 seconds? Maybe even 30?

Go out and see how long it takes you to run ~64 meters. If it's 30 seconds, then you either have a wooden leg or weigh 400 pounds.

No school records were set, thankfully, as there are no Road 10km records at most schools.

high school xc coach wrote:

a former runner of mine tells me he talked to a kid that had it .04 short.

So was possibly something like 100 meters to 150 meters short. So like 15 to 25 seconds? Maybe even 30?

Our whole team ran with GPS on today...distances we got were

6.23

6.25

6.20

6.27

6.28

6.33 (this guy must have taken 0 tangents)

6.24

The course wasn’t short, the runners were HAULING ASS, it was easy to see at the race...the guys were visibly running very fast. The race was on a road and 90% of them were wearing vaporfly’s, the times were legit road times (which shouldn’t be compared to XC times anyways, but track times maybe)

Northeast team wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

a former runner of mine tells me he talked to a kid that had it .04 short.

So was possibly something like 100 meters to 150 meters short. So like 15 to 25 seconds? Maybe even 30?

Our whole team ran with GPS on today...distances we got were

6.23

6.25

6.20

6.27

6.28

6.33 (this guy must have taken 0 tangents)

6.24

The course wasn’t short, the runners were HAULING ASS, it was easy to see at the race...the guys were visibly running very fast. The race was on a road and 90% of them were wearing vaporfly’s, the times were legit road times (which shouldn’t be compared to XC times anyways, but track times maybe)

Strava posts or it didn't happen. This course is more than likely short.

Lol nope wrote:

Northeast team wrote:

Our whole team ran with GPS on today...distances we got were

6.23

6.25

6.20

6.27

6.28

6.33 (this guy must have taken 0 tangents)

6.24

The course wasn’t short, the runners were HAULING ASS, it was easy to see at the race...the guys were visibly running very fast. The race was on a road and 90% of them were wearing vaporfly’s, the times were legit road times (which shouldn’t be compared to XC times anyways, but track times maybe)

Strava posts or it didn't happen. This course is more than likely short.

My son had the course 0.23 short.

So what if it is short? Did some of the runners have to run a different course than others? No. Everyone ran the same distance.

As far as xc courses go, if you go out and measure cross country courses, you'd find a fairly high % of them are not the distance they are purported to be. As long as it's close and everyone runs the same course, who cares?

It seems like the meet organizers really dropped the ball here.

D3 Atlantic Regionals had very similar weather and got the course cleared off (with an extra 24 hours).

Somebody get the metal tape out there and measure those tangents!

Raced the course this weekend and was concerned it was short as well. Mapped out the exact course on map my run and it came out to 6.28 miles without any tangents. The course was blazing fast and everyone was in great shape, not doubt that it was a true 10k